If hair and baldness really didn't matter

[Stagger Lee]

Then why is every guy I see trying to pick up with so much as a slightly receding hairline buzzing and shaving their head? And also I never see them leaving the bar with a girl, while guys with thick hair are? If it doesn't matter then why not just get a more normal hair cut?

And if hair doesn't matter then why does about every guy style their hair, usually with what ever is in fashion to the point they all look like cookie cutter molds? Meanwhile women, who tend to be very fashion and style conscience, I see mostly have their hair simply styled with maybe a part in the middle or on the side. It's as if other than being long women's hair doesn't matter but men's does.

It seeming like a lot of guys say it doesn't matter but don't put their money where their mouth is.

I want to believe, it doesn't matter but I can't ignore real experience and my own lying eyes. I want to see verifiable proof that balding guys are picking up women. At least Facebook pics with a backstory. I don't see any proof of it. I'm about to jump on the buzzed hair bandwagon myself.

 

[OptimumIndividual]

This rant doesn't make any sense to me. There are lots of attractive women who dig shaved/buzzed heads. I'm not sure what you're getting at. You sound like a frustrated guy with thinning hair who wants to blame your lack of success on hair and not cheesy game. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[BeDJ]

If it shuts you up, PM me your city. We'll split the cost of my airfare and I'll shave my head while we do night game.

Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Anyone and everyone is free to come to my city, and I'll take you to the hot night spot and you can show me how I'm wrong that good looking, young guys are the only ones that are sporting a chance. I can't say I'll help pay your way though. If your balding, shaved head, over 30 even better lol.

It would be redundant anyway because for several years we had a state wide lair and I know the outcome.

The point is most everyone says ugly, balding guys are with hot girls. The proof should be every where. But I see little to no proof of it. I'm not going to say I don't see guys I think look lacking in looks and hair walking away out of the bar with an attractive girl, but when it's numerically 1/100 that doesn't seem very encouraging.

I don't think I ever seen a guy with a normal hair cut and hair loss having any success. I'm starting to concluded it's for good reason they are all buzzing their hair. Too bad hats weren't more in style. A baseball cap might work, but I know those PUA fedoras are total fail lol.

 

[Solomon]

Bald guys get laid

My buddy is bald and he has been with over +150 women, guy is 37 and he can still pick up hot 21 year olds...granted he always wears a hat

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Pic of my buddy

 

[Stagger Lee]

My buddy is bald and he has been with over +150 women, guy is 37 and he can still pick up hot 21 year olds...granted he always wears a hat

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Pic of my buddy

Thanks, I'll take your word for it. I think he has a good looking face and looks younger. I wonder if he ever takes the cap off before sex lol.

I've never buzzed or shaved my head and never was into wearing hats, but I'm starting to seriously consider it.

 

[btownbuck2012]

ask Jason Statham if being bald stops him from getting laid.

"But...but....he's a movie star"

Yes, but he also works out, eats a healthy diet, and has followed his dreams in life. These are things every guy can do, maybe not all at once, but every guy can do those 3 things in life. saying you can't get laid because of hair or lack there of is nothing but an excuse IMO

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I see bald guys with the cutest girls lately....go figure, its about how you carry yourself

 

[jay07]

Jason statham, Vin diesel, kelly slater.

All tan. All jacked.all bald. All have chicks drooling.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Well darn who can argue with that? If famous, wealthy, celebrities who are bald (but shaved) but other wise usually good looking can attract ladies than anyone with hair loss can.

Do some people really don't understand that you can put just about any guy on tv and if his character is written to be a winner and star, many woman would be attracted to him? Hell forget TV, just give me the hot female co-stars and I'd roll to a real life club with and about every other girl in the bar would be eye-fvcking me.

No offense to anyone intended, but are some people really this clueless about what really attracts women? Do you really think if balding-average joe rolls out to a club he has the same status of hollywood celebrities? And I suppose every old man could be Hugh Hefner with the right game.

 

[expos]

A girl who I was obsessed with for couple of years ended up marrying a bald guy. He was sort of had a Italian/Portuguese look to him. I thought, based on her incredible looks, that she could pull better. In fact, when I saw him and her together in a photo, I said "what???, no way!"

Then, I randomly met them at a bar a few years ago (she remembered me and yelled to me). Anyway, the guy was super chill and nice. I never looked at him as being "some bald guy" but a guy who seemed like a good person and was fun to be around.

I also want to mention another bald guy, man boobs (his body is a disaster), 37 years old, divorced, two young kids, who dated my college crush (she wouldn't give me the time of day!) She was a bit of a gold digger anyways...he made great money and brought her on some exotic vacations...but regardless, he got to bang her for two years.

 

[jay07]

Well darn who can argue with that? If famous, wealthy, celebrities who are bald (but shaved) but other wise usually good looking can attract ladies than anyone with hair loss can.

Do some people really don't understand that you can put just about any guy on tv and if his character is written to be a winner and star, many woman would be attracted to him? Hell forget TV, just give me the hot female co-stars and I'd roll to a real life club with and about every other girl in the bar would be eye-fvcking me.

No offense to anyone intended, but are some people really this clueless about what really attracts women? Do you really think if balding-average joe rolls out to a club he has the same status of hollywood celebrities? And I suppose every old man could be Hugh Hefner with the right game.

"average looking joe"
I can find 100 bald celebrities who dont get girls. Whos girls dont drool over.

I named you dudes who take care of themselves amd are bald. Youre complaining about being bald not picking up chicks. Lets hear the rest of your example. 250 lb 5'6 uy with acne living in his parents basement is not gonna get chicks.are you atteacted to unattractive chicks?



Youre finding excuses. My buddy shaves his head, hes a cop whos phucking jacked. He pulls more girls than most of the dudes i know. I see more good looking bald dudes with hotter chicks nowadays than i do average guys with fullheads of hair.


Once again. Do work in the gym, shave your head, and wear clothes that compliment your physique.if you cant get a girl its not cause your bald, or short, or average looking. Its cause you care about those things.

 

[OptimumIndividual]

"average looking joe"
I can find 100 bald celebrities who dont get girls. Whos girls dont drool over.

I named you dudes who take care of themselves amd are bald. Youre complaining about being bald not picking up chicks. Lets hear the rest of your example. 250 lb 5'6 uy with acne living in his parents basement is not gonna get chicks.are you atteacted to unattractive chicks?



Youre finding excuses. My buddy shaves his head, hes a cop whos phucking jacked. He pulls more girls than most of the dudes i know. I see more good looking bald dudes with hotter chicks nowadays than i do average guys with fullheads of hair.


Once again. Do work in the gym, shave your head, and wear clothes that compliment your physique.if you cant get a girl its not cause your bald, or short, or average looking. Its cause you care about those things.

Fvckin repped.

 

[Stagger Lee]

"average looking joe"
I can find 100 bald celebrities who dont get girls. Whos girls dont drool over.

I wouldn't be too surprised, kind of my point. But all celebrities can get some women.

I named you dudes who take care of themselves amd are bald. Youre complaining about being bald not picking up chicks.

No you named otherwise good looking celebrities, not just "dudes".

Lets hear the rest of your example. 250 lb 5'6 uy with acne living in his parents basement is not gonna get chicks.are you atteacted to unattractive chicks?

That was never my premise. My premise was that due to hair loss an average to even slightly above average guy is not going to get chicks.

Youre finding excuses. My buddy shaves his head, hes a cop whos phucking jacked. He pulls more girls than most of the dudes i know.

Maybe, but do you see how your comment is loaded with qualifications, he shaves his head, does he have hair loss? My premise was primarily about hair loss and trying to have a normal hair cut. Not everyone can look good with a shaved head.

I see more good looking bald dudes with hotter chicks nowadays than i do average guys with fullheads of hair.

Lol you'll never get a disagreement out of me that good looking guys get more and hotter chicks than average looking guys. I'm not saying they don't exist but I don't personally know any good looking bald guys that get girls. That's pretty rare. I do see many young good looking guys with great hair getting hot girls.

Once again. Do work in the gym, shave your head, and wear clothes that compliment your physique.if you cant get a girl its not cause your bald, or short, or average looking. Its cause you care about those things.

If you can't get girls it's almost always a large part because of how you look. So you admit that with hair loss you need to shave your head? So it does matter? You can't just go shaving your thinning hair off and looking like Uncle Fester even with a gym toned body and get girls just because you don't care that you look like Uncle Fester.

 

[Sneevox]

Anyone and everyone is free to come to my city, and I'll take you to the hot night spot and you can show me how I'm wrong that good looking, young guys are the only ones that are sporting a chance. I can't say I'll help pay your way though. If your balding, shaved head, over 30 even better lol.

It would be redundant anyway because for several years we had a state wide lair and I know the outcome.

The point is most everyone says ugly, balding guys are with hot girls. The proof should be every where. But I see little to no proof of it. I'm not going to say I don't see guys I think look lacking in looks and hair walking away out of the bar with an attractive girl, but when it's numerically 1/100 that doesn't seem very encouraging.

I don't think I ever seen a guy with a normal hair cut and hair loss having any success. I'm starting to concluded it's for good reason they are all buzzing their hair. Too bad hats weren't more in style. A baseball cap might work, but I know those PUA fedoras are total fail lol.

Who the knows, dude? Buzz your hair and find out. Before doing so, try picking up women, and then note the statistics (e.g. every 9/10 girls talked back, every 8/10 girls smiled, 1/10 girls looked at my hair.) Then, buzz it and do the same statistics.

Let the difference between the statistics, or lack thereof, do the talking.


I say, looking good is an important thing, but also, game is important, too.
You don't even really need game if you have looks and basic social skills. You know?

This matrix-minded thinking level is basically run by one rule: You will be accepted into society if you are able to match your social behavior with the current social environment.

so if you are looking to go into the matrix and get what you want out of it, then leave it, you have to learn to match your behavior to a social environment... "blend in", per say, without telling everyone through body movement that you are foreign to the social environment.
You know? People in clubs act certain ways.
There's also a chance that your receding hair makes you look older than you are.

When I was in highschool, I had a friend who was only 19 and he looked like he was around 25 years old because his hair was so thin and was receding.

I say, personally, if you want to increase sexual attraction in people, shave your head or get it cut short.

 

[Sneevox]

Jason statham, Vin diesel, kelly slater.

All tan. All jacked.all bald. All have chicks drooling.

Yeah dude, bald jacked dudes look hardass as fvck.

 

[The Duke]

Stagger Lee- to be successful in a club you need to stand out some what. The average joe look/act isn't going to get you very far there. But the average joe who happens to be high-energy, extroverted, funny, and social will find some success. Also if you aren't comfortable on the dance floor you will have a more difficult time in a club. Hair or lack of isn't really a determining factor. I've had multiple girls tell me so.

And bald guys fill a niche in the market. ;-)

If the club scene isn't a fit, then start hanging out at other types of venues.

 

[OptimumIndividual]

All I'm reading here is a buttfrustrated guy who thinks his game is a lot better than it really is and the only way to explain his failures is to blame it on hairstyles. Being Mr. Defensive Thinning Hair Guy will NEVER get you laid.

Also, before you go shaving your head, be sure that you have the right face and head shape for it because you could end up looking dumb as hell. Most guys can't pull it off, tbh.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I never noticed you had a pic in your profile Espi. You seem to have good facial attractiveness. It doesn't look like you have any gray in your hair or beard.

It seems the consensus is if you have hair loss to shave it. My hair loss is just thinning on the top. I wouldn't even consider it to be worth noticing. But my ability to attract women severly drop coinciding with more noticable hair loss.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Ok...so the point is balding alone will not stop you from having sex dummy. Why does everything turn into a pity party about looks with you? Go get a PHd or something, get some status if the looks aren't there. Or get laser hair treatment! You are getting Body Dysmorphic Disorder over this ish.

I haven't said balding alone will stop you from having sex. What I'm saying is it can drastically lower your success ratio and youthfulness and attractiveness of the females you can get. And if you have near average facial aesthetics, then yes it can alone prevent you from attracting females.

Early you said hair was important. You talk a lot of smack. Espi can talk because he actually has balding and is past his 30's. I'll put aside the question of how hard he has to work pursuing women and how youthful and attractive they are.

The only thing you have experience with is being near average height. Of course you realize that is a drawback. Just get PhD and some status huh lol? Yeah that's real easy. Being a 40-something year old with PhD isn't going to do anything.

Thanks for the compliment SL.

Here are a few other things about me:

--I make 40k a year salary in a sales job and live in a spartan 1BR apt. in a semi-ghetto like neighborhood.
--I have very little money saved up.
--I drive a 2006 Jeep Wrangler.
--The hair on my head is actually mostly gray.
--I'm receding, big time.
--My facial hair is dark brown but I don't grow beards.

But none of those factors has ever kept me from attracting the type of women I like. I regularly take high-income-earning, powerful women back to my ghetto place--women with looks, status, power...I've had all kinds in my cheap apartment bed--a doctor being my most impressive score. She lives in a big house on the water here in Tampa Bay, but she seemed 100% happy spending time at my grungy place.

See, I never believed that having some money or some level of status makes much of a difference in sexually attracting women short term. Sure, it might help get you a LTR/marriage with some female playing the provider role. You know when I was most attractive to women? When I was in my mid-20's a broke college student driving a 10 year old beat up car.

None of us is perfect, but we can ALL use our strengths to maximize our attractiveness. I hit the gym regularly and work extremely hard at chasing down women--I've endured lots of rejections, flakings, etc. over the years, but I never quit--attracting gorgeous women is my passion, and I've got the work ethic to engage in that passion.

You work hard and probably a lot harder than if you had a full head of hair. But I won't dispute you get good enough results with youthful, attractive enough women. What I believe is you have to have a certain level of facial aesthetics especially as a guy who has hair loss. I believe facial aesthetics are one of the most important factors in attracting women.

There's nothing you can do about hair thinning. Some women will indeed be turned off by it. But you can't be all things to all people--so why not just focus on being yourself? Do what makes YOU happy--be happy with what you have and who you are--and you'll have plenty of plates to spin.

Either shave your head or be proud of it. Or, if you have the dough, get a hair transplant. Or go the cheaper route and buy rogaine.

Whatever you do, make the most of what you have, or don't have.

I have been using rogaine. A few years ago it was keeping my thinning hair from being noticeable. I stopped using it and my hair quickly thinned. I was perfectly happy with how it looked, but women evidentally weren't. That's when I realized my ability to attract women dropped way off. I start using it again but my hair is not getting as thick as it was before.

There's problems with using minoxidil. It's just a pain applying it every day or twice a day. It irritates the scalp, dries out your hair and makes it look thinner when it's in. If you are dying your hair it tends to strip out the dye. It can have cardiac effects on some people. I suspect it does to me. There's claims it ages the skin on your face. I'm not sure but the past few years I've noticed my face looking more aged. I am getting older but till recently I've always had youthful looking skin.

If you get a hair transplant, they want you to be on propecia/finasteride along with rogaine/minoxidil. Finasteride along with minoxidil would most likely bring my hair to near normal, but I'm not taking the risk with finasteride.

My point is there really no good or easy way to prevent hair loss. And it can negatively affect your attractiveness to females especially if you don't have above average facial aesthetics. I'm begining wonder if buzzed/shaved hair and filtering for the subset of females that like that look is about the only way. I just think you need a level of facial aesthetics and women do not generally like a normal hair cut with evidence of thinning.