"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If a woman gives friction or hesitation, CUT HER OFF!

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Women are more volatile than crypto. Never trust feelings and words. Behavior in the present matters. If a woman gives friction, she doesn't like you. Get rid of her. Throw the ball in her court if you want, but don't bet on it coming back.

Hedge your dating bets with work and business. Don't be friends with women unless they're helping you level up or introducing you to elite contacts. Women don't care about your feelings. I don't care about women's feelings either and you shouldn't either unless you're committed.

If a woman begins hesitation i.e. let me get back to you, that's an instant delete. Every man should have a deal breaker of broken dates and uncertainty from women.

I had a woman say we had a date once, then she messaged me saying she had covid and just came back from the doctor's office. She was blocked. She wouldn't have covid if Idris Elba or some NBA player asked her out. Get 5 million dollars, a Lamborghini, and a lit blue-checked IG with 100k followers. Most women will not think of those excuses.

Women know what they're doing. They know when they're playing games and wanting you to chase. They know their interest levels. They know what box you're in.

To add, if a woman wants to reschedule, message her "I'm finalizing my schedule. Send me a concrete day and time within 8 hours." If she flakes on a first date with no alternative, say "I will end this here. Let's never talk again." You weren't her first choice. She didn't have a family emergency. She had a date with Tyrone and he actually called her back. Every loss in dating is due to a better man around or feelings or attraction tanking.

It takes about 8 signs of interest to beat 1/2 a sign of disinterest. Especially early on. And online, once the man brings logistics into the chat, a lot changes. If excuses and BS get introduced by the woman, she's an attention wh0re and should be unmatched.

Court's adjourned. Grab a burger.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I pretty much do this these days. I just don't call back if I've been flaked on (sometimes the chick will call back asking me why I didn't call her back :rolleyes: ).

Gosh, I used to put up with so much BS. :mad::mad:
 

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I'd say the friction is sometimes not so much low interest but a reflection of a bad attitude/personality. That doesn't mean they are not interested or won't sleep with you. But they are hard work and even if they are extremely hot once you take your ego out of the equation you start asking yourself whether it is worth the effort.
 

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This is the type of post I like, and I would love ti see in depth discussion about this.

Recently I stated that a man MUST experience ( long-term):dedication and admiration from a woman in order to be able to set the bar. Too many men are used to being with women who act up, and shrug ot away as " just female behaviour '"


A relationship is like driving a fast car in comfort; as soon as you SENSE something wrong, you should adress it and fix it. Can't ignore ANY problem regardless how minor it is.






Correction: Tyrone didn't take her on a date.
And if he does is will be " extra special ". Tyrone can do: a walk ik the park, a coffee pr ice cream date, take her to McDonald's because " he hasn't been there for ages".

The average cost of a date is around 180 bucks IF you're not that guy...( to HER).
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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"I had a woman say we had a date once, then she messaged me saying she had covid and just came back from the doctor's office. She was blocked. She wouldn't have covid if Idris Elba or some NBA player asked her out. Get 5 million dollars, a Lamborghini, and a lit blue-checked IG with 100k followers. Most women will not think of those excuses."

" Throw the ball in her court if you want, but don't bet on it coming back. "

Years ago my current woman cancelled on what was supposed to be our first date becasue she legit thought she had Covid. She didnt do any counter offer to meet another day as she didnt know any better.

I could have blocked her. I could have been all butthurt. I just simply texted her "Get some rest. Let me know the test results". I left the ball in her court and didnt bet on it coming back.

Three day laters she texted "I tested negative" and we rescheduled. That was more than four years ago an we are still together and still going strong.
 

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Women are more volatile than crypto. Never trust feelings and words. Behavior in the present matters. If a woman gives friction, she doesn't like you. Get rid of her. Throw the ball in her court if you want, but don't bet on it coming back.

Hedge your dating bets with work and business. Don't be friends with women unless they're helping you level up or introducing you to elite contacts. Women don't care about your feelings. I don't care about women's feelings either and you shouldn't either unless you're committed.

If a woman begins hesitation i.e. let me get back to you, that's an instant delete. Every man should have a deal breaker of broken dates and uncertainty from women.

I had a woman say we had a date once, then she messaged me saying she had covid and just came back from the doctor's office. She was blocked. She wouldn't have covid if Idris Elba or some NBA player asked her out. Get 5 million dollars, a Lamborghini, and a lit blue-checked IG with 100k followers. Most women will not think of those excuses.

Women know what they're doing. They know when they're playing games and wanting you to chase. They know their interest levels. They know what box you're in.

To add, if a woman wants to reschedule, message her "I'm finalizing my schedule. Send me a concrete day and time within 8 hours." If she flakes on a first date with no alternative, say "I will end this here. Let's never talk again." You weren't her first choice. She didn't have a family emergency. She had a date with Tyrone and he actually called her back. Every loss in dating is due to a better man around or feelings or attraction tanking.

It takes about 8 signs of interest to beat 1/2 a sign of disinterest. Especially early on. And online, once the man brings logistics into the chat, a lot changes. If excuses and BS get introduced by the woman, she's an attention wh0re and should be unmatched.

Court's adjourned. Grab a burger.
I think if you have a pipeline of prospects and aren't looking for anything serious then I agree with the gist of what you have stated but it comes across so hardcore, black and white. Life and people aren't that way.

I urge one to look at this from a different mindset.

Using language like this isn't going to help your cause at all.
"I'm finalizing my schedule. Send me a concrete day and time within 8 hours." If she flakes on a first date with no alternative, say "I will end this here. Let's never talk again."

Its arrogant and a little threatening. Not charming at all. Not what men that know how to lead women do at all. No girl wants to hear that. You don't ask her to set the time/date either.

Suggest a time, agree on what works. If she flakes then you simply don't talk to her or hit her up again in a few days if she had a decent excuse. If she straight up flakes she doesn't want to talk to you anyways. Telling her anything makes you look butt hurt and desperate.


I had a girl I met in a bar and went home with one night. A few days later she asked me out for a "real" date. I agreed and then some things came up with my dad's health and he was in the hospital for 3 days. I would visit him in the evenings after work. Due to the amount of driving and the emotional toll, I was wore out by the end of the week and didn't have the physical or mental energy for a date with even the hottest super model on the planet. So I told this girl I would have to reschedule and I explained my situation. She reacted like Nismo recommends and didn't believe me and then spun herself into a tail spin thinking I used her for a one night stand. So guess what I did? I never talked to the biatch again. She showed me who she was by how she handled the situation. That girl kept calling for 3 more weeks afterwards. All this girl would of had to do was stay chill for a few more days and we would have gone out again, but her "feelings" and mouth driven by her anxiety got the best of her and ruined her chances. I didn't need to be in any type of relationship with women that act like this.

A little empathy goes a long way, and there is no need to get in such a big rush because your anxiety is acting up. Call someone else up if it bugs you so bad and you must go out with someone.
 
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All rise! You may be seated and drink your juice.

Women are more volatile than crypto. Never trust feelings and words. Behavior in the present matters. If a woman gives friction, she doesn't like you. Get rid of her. Throw the ball in her court if you want, but don't bet on it coming back.

Hedge your dating bets with work and business. Don't be friends with women unless they're helping you level up or introducing you to elite contacts. Women don't care about your feelings. I don't care about women's feelings either and you shouldn't either unless you're committed.

If a woman begins hesitation i.e. let me get back to you, that's an instant delete. Every man should have a deal breaker of broken dates and uncertainty from women.

I had a woman say we had a date once, then she messaged me saying she had covid and just came back from the doctor's office. She was blocked. She wouldn't have covid if Idris Elba or some NBA player asked her out. Get 5 million dollars, a Lamborghini, and a lit blue-checked IG with 100k followers. Most women will not think of those excuses.

Women know what they're doing. They know when they're playing games and wanting you to chase. They know their interest levels. They know what box you're in.

To add, if a woman wants to reschedule, message her "I'm finalizing my schedule. Send me a concrete day and time within 8 hours." If she flakes on a first date with no alternative, say "I will end this here. Let's never talk again." You weren't her first choice. She didn't have a family emergency. She had a date with Tyrone and he actually called her back. Every loss in dating is due to a better man around or feelings or attraction tanking.

It takes about 8 signs of interest to beat 1/2 a sign of disinterest. Especially early on. And online, once the man brings logistics into the chat, a lot changes. If excuses and BS get introduced by the woman, she's an attention wh0re and should be unmatched.

Court's adjourned. Grab a burger.
Most of my flings were just a result of attraction/chemistry and good logistics. When there’s perfect logistics and she’s still giving me friction, then I know she’s a waste of my time.

In fact, a lot of guys get laid purely on logistics alone and very little chemistry.

I don’t would even advise guys to focus on having perfect logistics before they even think about attraction and chemistry.

Women (sane women) are sexual creatures and have no qualms with casual hookups with guys with very convenient logistics.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I used to go quite hardcore with a similar approach and used to cut leads off very quickly for bad behaviour

However after some thought I don't think it really has much benefit

I think actually by doing a lot of the zero tolerance stuff your kind of playing into her frame ...becuase you've made it obvious you want her and she knows she has the leverage

Yea sure she can't play anymore games and she loses some attention but ultimately you don't really gain anything either other than having to find the next one and hope she's more compliant.

My best experiences with women have been where she's not really sure if I'm even interested let alone bothered enough to block her for non compliance/

There is an art to this and if you get it right she doesn't even get the option to play games because she doesn't know if you're that bothered in her that way.

That is the best angle to have them
 

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I had a woman say we had a date once, then she messaged me saying she had covid and just came back from the doctor's office. She was blocked. She wouldn't have covid if Idris Elba or some NBA player asked her out.
I didn't covid know discriminates depending on who asks a woman out.
 

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I used to go quite hardcore with a similar approach and used to cut leads off very quickly for bad behaviour

However after some thought I don't think it really has much benefit

I think actually by doing a lot of the zero tolerance stuff your kind of playing into her frame ...becuase you've made it obvious you want her and she knows she has the leverage

Yea sure she can't play anymore games and she loses some attention but ultimately you don't really gain anything either other than having to find the next one and hope she's more compliant.

My best experiences with women have been where she's not really sure if I'm even interested let alone bothered enough to block her for non compliance/

There is an art to this and if you get it right she doesn't even get the option to play games because she doesn't know if you're that bothered in her that way.

That is the best angle to have them
I agree, although oftentimes "advice " or philosophies we share are very generic ; its a thin and subjective line what disrespect/ non interest actually means. And tbh, most of us have been in situations where we KNEW that she crossed a red line yet we kept moving the goalpost to cut her some slack...this is how a man eventually ends up staying with a woman who cheated on him....

Every woman will have something off. But yet most men out of the " 65 % that dont date" will benefit from generic advice.

Id even say that a woman who DO likes you will be annoying AF by default: she will ( rightfully?) assume there are plenty of other women that want you and that alone will always be a topic...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yeah I think being too reactive isn't a good thing. It can backfire and make you look uptight and for some women they will actually enjoy getting a reaction from you and creating drama so it can encourage future bad behaviour. Also early in the game women respond very badly to pressure which is what ultimatums create.

I agree that 9 times out of 10 when she says she is busy or needs to check her schedule etc or will let you know it is BS. But on the rare occasions when her excuse is genuine then you'll win points by handling it calmly and leaving the ball in her court. And if they do get back to you then often they are keen to make it up to you which shifts the balance of power very much in your favour.
 

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When it comes to flaking, I think you can show a little leniency depending on the situation. For instance, in the OP, if a woman says she has Covid, that generally doesn't sound like a BS excuse and I will be willing to work a bit on a reschedule without her needing to give me an alternative date/time immediately "within 8 hours" if she is laying in bed with a 102 degree fever and no energy. That is an incredibly (and unnecessary) harsh approach and ultimately you could just be limiting yourself for no reason.

The key is always in the response you get from the inquiry for the reschedule when you do ask. Radio silence or a very vague response is definitely a cause to simply next her at that point and you will be better off simply moving on. Even then, a comment/text such as "never let us talk again" is frankly immature and pointless. Just move on like a man and don't be an ass. It is beneath you to show that much emotion over something so simple. Also, these things have a way of making it around and that kind of negative rhetoric could bite you down the line with other women (or even outside of women depending on who she knows).
 

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This is the type of post I like, and I would love ti see in depth discussion about this.

Recently I stated that a man MUST experience ( long-term):dedication and admiration from a woman in order to be able to set the bar. Too many men are used to being with women who act up, and shrug ot away as " just female behaviour '"


A relationship is like driving a fast car in comfort; as soon as you SENSE something wrong, you should adress it and fix it. Can't ignore ANY problem regardless how minor it is.







And if he does is will be " extra special ". Tyrone can do: a walk ik the park, a coffee pr ice cream date, take her to McDonald's because " he hasn't been there for ages".

The average cost of a date is around 180 bucks IF you're not that guy...( to HER).
so true @Gamisch
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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