"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is this disrespectful or nah?

Recently she had been dropping hints about exclusivity but I didn't want to discuss it yet, then she sends me snapchat with dude in her bed asleep behind her.

As a plate obviously she can do what she likes and vice versa but out of common decency I keep my stuff on the DL sort of "don't ask don't tell" policy

Not sure if a **** test or what, I had been considering giving into her exclusivity thing but definatly not keen now.

What do
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'd reply with "guess its good you are able to wear someone out, lmao" then never contact her again unless she hits you up
 

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Well, you can't fault her for not being honest with you. But, this one guy could be one of many too.

Better to speak your mind or be prepared for more snapchats.

Doesn't seem like a **** test to me. Appears as though her emotions towards you don't run anywhere as deep as your emotions towards her.

Women who actually like you wouldn't even want to take the remote chance of being seen in public with another guy (much less the bed) to avoid giving you the wrong impression.
 
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Well, you can't fault her for not being honest with you. But, this one guy could be one of many too.

Better to speak your mind or be prepared for more snapchats.

Doesn't seem like a **** test to me. Appears as though her emotions towards you don't run anywhere as deep as your emotions towards her.

Women who actually like you wouldn't even want to take the remote chance of being seen in public with another guy (much less the bed) to avoid giving you the wrong impression.
My emotions towards her aren't deep if suspected she was just a sloot since day one but she seemed to be changing my mind but now I know haha.

Just wanted to know if it's a **** move or not tbh

Onwards and upwards
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If she rubs another guy in your face...walk!
 

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I would hazard a guess, and say that she did this with the intention of provoking jealousy.

One thing that I have noticed about women is that they believe we are like them, and share the same attraction traits as they do. They believe jealousy turns us on, because it turns them on.

Though most girls would have just put a picture on Facebook of her hanging out with a guy, probably leading on an orbiter. But not this girl :D

I've dealt with women like this, and they were psychos. What OP does next is up to him, but anything exclusive should be completely out of the question.

And yes, it was disrespectful lol.
I think she was trying to make me jealous as I'd declined to meet her that night because I had prior plans, I think this was her way of voicing her disapproval.

It didn't make me jealous as much as think I don't need someone like that around me.

Sometimes I need to check though, recovering AFC = like to know I'm not jumping to conclusions
 

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Is this disrespectful or nah?

Recently she had been dropping hints about exclusivity but I didn't want to discuss it yet, then she sends me snapchat with dude in her bed asleep behind her.

As a plate obviously she can do what she likes and vice versa but out of common decency I keep my stuff on the DL sort of "don't ask don't tell" policy

Not sure if a **** test or what, I had been considering giving into her exclusivity thing but definatly not keen now.
If it's a "plate", why do you care? I thought a plate was a girl you have sex with and move on. Or are there emotions involved in plates? You sleep together with no emotions but she can't tell you about other guys? :rolleyes:
 

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not all women realize that jealousy only works on stupid men/betas/possessive and angry men

whereas jealously generally works on most women, not just the particularly stupid/weak ones.

in any case, don't give her what she wants just because she did this or else she'll get the impression that whenever she wants something from you she just has to whip out the manipulation handbook or call up another guy

if anything make it seem like you're turned off and that she only screwed herself over(but be aloof, not emotional).
 

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If it's a "plate", why do you care? I thought a plate was a girl you have sex with and move on. Or are there emotions involved in plates? You sleep together with no emotions but she can't tell you about other guys? :rolleyes:
Can you not read mate or are you straight trolling?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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One thing that I have noticed about women is that they believe we are like them, and share the same attraction traits as they do. They believe jealousy turns us on, because it turns them on
Its this here. I see it all the time and its pretty obvious. Some women need to learn game more than men do.
Jealousy is a female trait. Learned that off Jay Z!
 

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Well you came in giving it the chest beating routine so I had to ask
Still unsure but bro as soon as say "She is plate and she can do what she likes to do...BUT" the word "but" destroys the sentence that precedes it. In my opinion she is not a plate, she is a girl you care about. ;)

As to what to do. You don't do anything. She is trying to get a reaction out of you. Not worth it to bite.
 

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I'd say that she is a psycho and a skank, that is for sure.

Now, what would I do about it? well, I wouldn't have replied anything, and I would cease contact with her. Even if she initiates it I would ignore it for a few weeks or forever. Because you know, what she did is not normal at all and she is more than retarded and has no manners.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is this disrespectful or nah?

Recently she had been dropping hints about exclusivity but I didn't want to discuss it yet, then she sends me snapchat with dude in her bed asleep behind her.

As a plate obviously she can do what she likes and vice versa but out of common decency I keep my stuff on the DL sort of "don't ask don't tell" policy

Not sure if a **** test or what, I had been considering giving into her exclusivity thing but definatly not keen now.

What do
This is going to backfire on her.

A guy with more options is more attractive to women. She has hinted that she wants to be exclusive. You didnt bite. She knows you have plates, you have options. Her interest in you is really high.

She thinks (because she thinks like a woman) that if she presents to you that she has options she will become more attractive to you and this will make you more competitive and chase her.

This will backfire on her because being a man you will wind up nexting her
 

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This is going to backfire on her.

A guy with more options is more attractive to women. She has hinted that she wants to be exclusive. You didnt bite. She knows you have plates, you have options. Her interest in you is really high.

She thinks (because she thinks like a woman) that if she presents to you that she has options she will become more attractive to you and this will make you more competitive and chase her.

This will backfire on her because being a man you will wind up nexting her
I agree with this. She is trying to use this other guy after an "exclusive talk" to make him move faster toward committing to that.

At this point if the OP isnt interested in that, move on. And if you were, this should tell you she isnt an "exclusive" kind of girl.

Psycho move on her part. Its one thing to have a few plates, its another to rub one in another's face. Completely disrespectful.

NEXT!
 

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This is going to backfire on her.

A guy with more options is more attractive to women. She has hinted that she wants to be exclusive. You didnt bite. She knows you have plates, you have options. Her interest in you is really high.

She thinks (because she thinks like a woman) that if she presents to you that she has options she will become more attractive to you and this will make you more competitive and chase her.

This will backfire on her because being a man you will wind up nexting her
I have basically soft nexted her.
 

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Plate, gf or whatever, it's pure attention-seeking, inflammatory behaviour and I don't have time for people's bullsh!t any more. I would just quietly move on. If she gets in touch, be polite and 'have a lot of work on' if she asks to get together. She'll get the hint eventually and you leave with your pride in tact.

If she wanted exclusivity, this was the wrong way to go about it. Seriously, more men need to be acting upon infantile behaviour like this or people never learn a thing.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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