Hitman10000
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
"If a guy doesn't pay for you, you're not being treated like you're special. . . ."
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
Hitman10000 said:
I didn't get past the first two lines... "he was this and he was that". Yep, written by a woman. What? This article is in MSN's "money" section? Pssfff.
Upon moving my mouse to the "close" button, my eyes caught "Me - the feminist..."
Yep, definitely don't care what some feminist b¡tch has to say about, well, anything.
Horray for the sucker that took her off the market and spared the rest of us men the time of hitting on her, dating her, then realizing she was a retard and a waste of our time.
Man, it's sh¡t like this that makes me love the fact that there are SooooOOOoo many AFC's out there.
squirrels
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"Special" treatment is earned.
That being said, that's why the first date should always be an inexpensive one. So you CAN pay and it's not like you're going out of your way.
That being said, that's why the first date should always be an inexpensive one. So you CAN pay and it's not like you're going out of your way.
Amen, brother Vulpine! I concur. They (feminists) have literally launched an assault and the casualties of war is AFC men out there emptying their wallets left and right. I need VU to put it so eloquently in Army words! The victory was so complete its like the start of the movie "Red Dawn" where there's only a rag-tag band of surviving, free, and non-caged "Wolverine" DJs.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I took an eyeball snapshot of the first page and straight away "Me--feminist" jumped out at me like a rabid squirrel on crack and I could feel my synapse begin to fuse together. I wasn't going to continue reading that. However, it may be interesting if a few of us post replies to the article to stir things up.Vulpine said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Francisco d'Anconia
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Oh yeah, anyone notice from her current picture that it looks like her husband continued to feed her pretty damn well?
Mr.Positive
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These type of articles are irritating, it's best not to read them. I wonder how many good men failed this test, and didn't get a 2nd date.
I find this annoying because if I ask a woman out, then I'm paying for the date because I invited her. I don't think of it as a reward, or being generous. I just don't think about, it's just money, not a big deal. I want to get to know her. That's what is important to me.
If this is the only reason I got a second date, and I found out about it, I'd be pissed!! She'd get nexted soooo fast her skirt would fly up.
All this article says is that all men are the same, with the exeption of payers and non-payers on the first date.
I find this annoying because if I ask a woman out, then I'm paying for the date because I invited her. I don't think of it as a reward, or being generous. I just don't think about, it's just money, not a big deal. I want to get to know her. That's what is important to me.
If this is the only reason I got a second date, and I found out about it, I'd be pissed!! She'd get nexted soooo fast her skirt would fly up.
All this article says is that all men are the same, with the exeption of payers and non-payers on the first date.
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
I was brought up in the midwest, in the 60's/70's. Growing up, I understood that guys always paid. Girls paid when it was his birthday or special event. Any man that "went Dutch" or asked a woman to pay was considered "ungentlemanly", cheap and a horrible date. This is how I was raised.
Now my views are different. I like the first date to be a very cheap one, preferably coffee, and we go dutch. This way I can decide if I even want to spend two hours over dinner with this guy. I'm also suspicious about men who insist on 4 star restuarants on the second or third date. Like they think, "HOT DAMN! Third date! Take her somewhere nice and I'll get laid!"
Dating is about spending TIME not money.
If the girl likes your company, she'll be happy with peanut-butter and jelly sandwiches in the park. If she's a gold digger/ dinner hor, then she'll want the lobster dinner and the $80 wine, and will make you feel like crap if you don't give it to her.
Now my views are different. I like the first date to be a very cheap one, preferably coffee, and we go dutch. This way I can decide if I even want to spend two hours over dinner with this guy. I'm also suspicious about men who insist on 4 star restuarants on the second or third date. Like they think, "HOT DAMN! Third date! Take her somewhere nice and I'll get laid!"
Dating is about spending TIME not money.
If the girl likes your company, she'll be happy with peanut-butter and jelly sandwiches in the park. If she's a gold digger/ dinner hor, then she'll want the lobster dinner and the $80 wine, and will make you feel like crap if you don't give it to her.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
What's that word for someone giving sex for money ... know I've heard it before ... I think it begins with a "p" ...
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
"If a girl doesn't suck you off, you're not being treated like you're special,..."
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
You got to give her some brownie points for admitting that she and her feminist sisters are hypocrites. Apparently Feminist dogma preaches financial independence ('except ' when it comes to paying your way on a date.) Then ,when it is financially and emotionally convenient to them , these mindless bimbos revert right back to the 'old dating game'. So pure feminisim and its practice are excluded from the dating ritual. Now, ain't that just like a woman.
Did anyone read another of my recent posts in which I claimed that women are creatures of expedience and convenience.
The prosecution rests it's case.
Did anyone read another of my recent posts in which I claimed that women are creatures of expedience and convenience.
The prosecution rests it's case.
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Interceptor
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Rollo Tomassi said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Hallelujah sister!!!! :rockon:WaterTiger said:
Preach it!!!! :rockon:WaterTiger said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHkHrdgDjNY
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.