"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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if a girl cancels a date would you expect her to try to reshedule?

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if she canceled i feel like if she wants to still go on a date then she should mention a reschedule date right? or do you think its the guys part to try to reschedule again? i was looking at it like if she doesnt bother to mention anything then she may not have had any real intentions on meeting up right?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sounds like this one has correctly identified you as a chump. Fortunately, women are extremely forgiving of chumps and maybe it's not too late.

I've found my women friends mention rescheduling if they actually intend to. Or they'll bring it up later. If you're in touch with her just wish her a nice day, evening, whatever. Maybe crack a joke. Say something interesting and vulnerable about yourself. But give her space if she wants it. Women want us according to their cycle and on their own schedule and we must learn to respect it.
 

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i dont know if you answered the question or not?

izza said:
Sounds like this one has correctly identified you as a chump. Fortunately, women are extremely forgiving of chumps and maybe it's not too late.

I've found my women friends mention rescheduling if they actually intend to. Or they'll bring it up later. If you're in touch with her just wish her a nice day, evening, whatever. Maybe crack a joke. Say something interesting and vulnerable about yourself. But give her space if she wants it. Women want us according to their cycle and on their own schedule and we must learn to respect it.
 

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Yes, they will always reschedule an exact date if they are interested.

I've learned:

* If they reschedule but then reschedule again, you are done.
* If they say "maybe some other time" without specifying the exact time, you are done.
* If they use the word busy in any way shape or form (even if they are a single mom who works third shift and goes to school full time), you are done.
* If more than 2-3 months has elapsed from the day you first kissed them and there has not been sex, you are done.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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izza said:
Sounds like this one has correctly identified you as a chump. Fortunately, women are extremely forgiving of chumps and maybe it's not too late.

I've found my women friends mention rescheduling if they actually intend to. Or they'll bring it up later. If you're in touch with her just wish her a nice day, evening, whatever. Maybe crack a joke. Say something interesting and vulnerable about yourself. But give her space if she wants it. Women want us according to their cycle and on their own schedule and we must learn to respect it.
What you've written is nonsense, for most of the time. If a woman flakes and doesn't reschedule, she clearly has a low interest level. You should not contact her, unless she contacts you first. And if she does, she better (1) fess up to the flake and apologize with a damn good reason and (2) suggest a new meet up. If she fails to do either, never agree to go out with her again.

If a woman flakes and she doesn't contact you, cut her out of your life. She doesn't respect not just you but people in general.

"Repecting" women's cycles and schedules puts them in the driver seat, which they already are in many ways. Us men have to start setting up our own rules and boundaries and sticking to them or we'll only continue to see more chitty behavior from women. It is already bad enough as it is.
 

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whosthat said:
i dont know if you answered the question or not?
I thought I had when I said "I've found my women friends mention rescheduling if they actually intend to."

But please let me know if there's something I missed. Thank you!
 

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HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
What you've written is nonsense, for most of the time. If a woman flakes and doesn't reschedule, she clearly has a low interest level. You should not contact her, unless she contacts you first. And if she does, she better (1) fess up to the flake and apologize with a damn good reason and (2) suggest a new meet up. If she fails to do either, never agree to go out with her again.

If a woman flakes and she doesn't contact you, cut her out of your life. She doesn't respect not just you but people in general.

"Repecting" women's cycles and schedules puts them in the driver seat, which they already are in many ways. Us men have to start setting up our own rules and boundaries and sticking to them or we'll only continue to see more chitty behavior from women. It is already bad enough as it is.
We agree about women contacting you if they want to.

You're welcome to think the stuff about women being in charge is nonsense. I would like to give the OP as many possible avenues and ways of thinking as possible. If we disagree, so much the better for the OP. I'm not trying to convert you - I'm not sure why you feel a need to discredit what I'm saying. Simply stating that you disagree is plenty. If everybody thought the same life would be dull, don't you think?

I believe women are and should be in charge of this whole dating operation. My entire way of operating is to focus on being platonic friends with women and then I liberate them and empower them to be in charge of sexuality. "Be in charge" doesn't mean have 100% power, but it does mean having more power. I mostly just mind my own business - I try to be as humble and loving as I can. I am very honest. Sooner or later, many people want me but not everyone. Of course I have my boundaries and those are very important. But women are more powerful than us. Moreover, we men are highly suggestible whereas women's sexuality happens according to its own schedule. Unless you respect women's schedule, you will be alone. But I'm glad to hear you understand that women are in the driver's seat. It's because, despite our culture lying to us, it's true. Any attempt to control women's attraction to us is extremely annoying to women and they are very intuitive, and can detect many things that we're not aware of. My experience has been that it is best not to try to play games with women because we always lose.

I experience very few problems of disrespect in terms of flakes from women. Sorry to hear that's been your experience though. Women have more power than us but I accept it. If women aren't in the driver's seat I teach them how to seduce all the men of their dreams by being more direct and using men's suggestibility to make their dreams come true.

The one thing we men can do to attract women is to liberate and empower them and to tell the truth. Women have a terrible time with truth, especially vulnerable truths. This is a gift we can give all women.

I'm not saying you should believe those things. I'm simply saying that's what I believe.
 

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whosthat said:
if she canceled i feel like if she wants to still go on a date then she should mention a reschedule date right? or do you think its the guys part to try to reschedule again? i was looking at it like if she doesnt bother to mention anything then she may not have had any real intentions on meeting up right?
If she's still interested in you, she'll reschedule and actually follow through. If you try it, she's damn got the upper hand. This is why we preach spinning more plates.

The ball is in her court. If she doesn't reschedule, next her. Add bigneil's answer as well.

Case closed.
 

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Simple rules to live by:

1) If you ask a girl out and she says that the date/time doesn't work for her, she WILL suggest an alternative if she is at all interested in you. If she just says that she can't make it or is "busy" without an alternate suggestion, forget that she ever existed.

2) If she cancels a date and doesn't make alternate suggestions, she is not interested. Forget that she ever existed.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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bigneil said:
If they use the word busy in any way shape or form...
In a search of text transcripts of 21,000 words and 1 combined year of dating 2 women they never said they were busy ONCE!
 
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Just do the opposite of what "izza" says and you'll be fine. I think he's a master troll.

So yes, if a woman cancels and doesn't bother to reschedule, move on. She has.
 
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