"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I would be fine if she would just go away

always 2 nice

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My situation is about 3 years old now ad I'm so ready for it to be over. About 3 years ago I meta woman who cuts hair across the street from my business. Shortly after I started getting my hair cut there she asked me for my cell number. I gave her my business number the first 2 times she asked because I thought she was out of my league, I'm a big guy, she's a moderately attractive middleaged woman. So anyway when she finally got my cell, communication became a daily thing quickly on her part. She asked me to go out for drinks one night which quickly turned into 3 or more dinner/drinks dates and lunch a couple of times a week.She followed up with Hints suggestions that she was into me etc. Nothing crazy but she wasn't calling me buddy. I told her I was interested and BAM! THE FRIEND SPEECH along with more mixed signals and asking me to go out more. She started calling our outings DATE NIGHT, tell me I was a fantastic date and at the end of a couple of dates she would give me kiss on the cheek and a big hug tell me she had an amazing time and even go on to say.... I WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT, I HAVE MY KIDS BUT I'LL CALL YOU. What FRIEND DOES THIS????? The story goes on but i'll post this for now. What does this sound like? CRAZY?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Warrior74

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Sounds like you need to put your big boy jeans on and STOP TALKING TO HER. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Stop going on Girls Night Out with your Girlfriend. No contact. leave it. Stop being her gay best friend. Good luck.

btw. She's middle aged with kids. Shes totally not out of your league, you are out of hers. Start treating her like it. By not talking to her. Shes got too much baggage.
 

sodbuster

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Well, right now, she's getting what SHE wants-dinner,a night out without the kids, etc. YOU aren't getting your needs met. Time to call her out. Frankly tell her you want sex. IF she's not willing, move on and find another woman. Since you ARE ok if you never see her again,you can't lose. She may try to get you back into HER ideal man,don't weaken
 

always 2 nice

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Yeah, this bs has been going on far too long. I could tell you stories that would make you want to puke. When I ignore communiocation it usually results in her calling my business phone and my cell multiple times and texts about me ignoring her. I've been through it all with this woman, she's manipulated me to fix her car, for financial help, every time catching me off guard, I've finally pounded it into my head what she really is. Because I had developed feelings for her(and she knows it obviously) she has played my strings to the fullest extent. She has her system of calling or texting right when I think she's done and gone and she's so persistent to regain my attention. she'll call my business phone, and i kinda have to answer that. Now amazingly enough she's dating some douchebag who treats her (well...i guess how she deserves) how ever that leaves me as the mental nice guy platonic boyfriend crutch she needs because he's a jerk, but so is she obviously. She's so crazy that she has looked at me and said..YOU'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ME.
 

Radharc

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always 2 nice said:
I told her I was interested and BAM! THE FRIEND SPEECH along with more mixed signals and asking me to go out more.
But did you actually made some moves or you simply told her? Because, you see, it really doesn´t work out like that.

Anyways, that financial help thing and using you and not letting you go sounds extra-fishy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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