"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's crazy, but it seems if you get rejected once in a day, going after other girls will also get you nothing but rejection. I can't wait to become a millionaire just to attract beautiful women, that's light years away.

Any of this back-to-back rejection crap happen to you guys? How do you handle it?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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nismo-4 said:
It's crazy, but it seems if you get rejected once in a day, going after other girls will also get you nothing but rejection. I can't wait to become a millionaire just to attract beautiful women, that's light years away.

Any of this back-to-back rejection crap happen to you guys? How do you handle it?
I think you're letting the first rejection affect your mood and confidence.
 

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I don't care to be honest.

I get apprehensive about it at first of course, but then I remember that rejection is better than regret.

It may be something that you're doing wrong.
 

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nismo-4 said:
It's crazy, but it seems if you get rejected once in a day, going after other girls will also get you nothing but rejection. I can't wait to become a millionaire just to attract beautiful women, that's light years away.

Any of this back-to-back rejection crap happen to you guys? How do you handle it?

It all took care of itself when I made my second million.


Cheers!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Money won't truly attract women to you. Maybe temporarily, which is even worse as they will just use you.

What you speak of is the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you believe you're going to be rejected, you will be.
 

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WC2 said:
Money won't truly attract women to you. Maybe temporarily, which is even worse as they will just use you.

What you speak of is the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you believe you're going to be rejected, you will be.
Just gotta make sure they have something REAL to bring to the table. Sure, there's the arm candy factor, but i'd cut 'em loose if I find they're after my wallet and not me.
 

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WC2 said:
Money won't truly attract women to you. Maybe temporarily, which is even worse as they will just use you.

What you speak of is the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you believe you're going to be rejected, you will be.
Could not have said it better. I am a big believer in the self-fulfilling prophecy. The past rejections that have left you vulnerable, anxious, even upset could manifest themselves in many ways, such as coming off as desperate and/or creepy. Of course, you're not consciously aware of these subtle hints, but women are very alert and will turn tale if they detect an uncomfortable and insecure man.
 

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nismo-4 said:
It's crazy, but it seems if you get rejected once in a day, going after other girls will also get you nothing but rejection. I can't wait to become a millionaire just to attract beautiful women, that's light years away.

Any of this back-to-back rejection crap happen to you guys? How do you handle it?
First, money has nothing to do with getting chicks. Nothing. Zero. Unless they're LA/Vegas gold diggers.

MONEY HAS NOT ONE GOD DAMN THING TO DO WITH PICKING UP WOMEN.


In fact it can work against you in terms of sexually connection - the Lover vs Provider dilemma.

Secondly, your mind is working against you. My bet is you accept that your reality has become you getting rejected by girls and you do feel down after it. You take it personally. Don't.

If you continue with a negative mindset your mind will look for evidence to confirm this and you will attract/invest more energy into this.


Key Takeaways:

1) Money can become a liability when picking up chicks. Make money for yourself, not to pick up women.

2) Take nothing personally. If she rejects you, so what? A better looking, more concupiscent woman is waiting for you.

Go with the flow man, enjoy the moment. Let go of your concern of being "accepted" or "rejected" in the end, they're just words.
 

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pLaYtHiNg said:
Could not have said it better. I am a big believer in the self-fulfilling prophecy. The past rejections that have left you vulnerable, anxious, even upset could manifest themselves in many ways, such as coming off as desperate and/or creepy. Of course, you're not consciously aware of these subtle hints, but women are very alert and will turn tale if they detect an uncomfortable and insecure man.
This is why the successful man takes rejection as a lesson, not a bad omen.

It's also why the unsuccessful man never gets laid; he's scared of rejection and thus he's scared of women.

In fact, whenever I'm rejected by a woman, I don't even think about it till later on. In the moment, I just move on to my next target. I do my homework later on, not in the moment.

I've heard the saying that a woman knows right away if she wants to have sex with you or not.

Your mentality into approaching situations and first impressions tell women a lot.

So the lesson is... BE SECURE IN YOURSELF.. not for women but for you. All the time. Why not?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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