"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I was just called and informed that a girl I've been sleeping with has HERPES

Fender

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WOW! This guy is REALLY creepy (like...mental asylum creepy)

If I were you, I'd just scare the sh*t outta his ***** as5(verbally and possibly physically as well).

Oh, and tell your GF to say this to him "F*CK OFF YOU F*CKIN PIECE OF SH*T! You're Hair reminds me of F*CKING CR@P! Your brains the size of F*CKING SH*T! You're a SORRY excuse of a F*CKING man!"

That oughtta do the trick.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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PRMoon

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backbreaker said:
i would leave her... a girl sometimes can have a guy in her life that is just too much to handle. Think about it like this.

He wouldn't be acting this way, if she didn't give him a reason to act this way. He had to get your number. She had to talk to him to the point to think he still has a flying chance.

If not for that.. is all of this really worth it? **** that, leave, and let her deal with him, and don't talk to her until he's out of the picture, you have better things to do with your time
That's the kind of preaching I like to hear.

Amen rev. bb.
 

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id next the *****.. sounds like the guy might get physical, maybe even kill you or something over this girl. i wouldnt wanna risk injury to myself over some girl.
 

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dude. this guy is psycho. let her family know about this freak and settle it with them. because apparently he is a psychopath who is trying to screw with you and her.
 

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well its one of these ways or the other.
1. the guy likes her sooo much that he is willing to spread lies to other guys to keep them away from her so she will be so lonely she might just give him a chance.
2. she didnt want to kiss him because she has herpes and she hasnt told you yet because she is embarrassed. its not a thing most people like to hear.
3. she didnt like him but wanted to spare his feelings and told him she had herpes so he would leave her alone.



i could easily see it all those ways.
my ex who gave me herpes, didnt tell his new girlfriend about his herpes. she started calling me and harrassing me because shes a young dumb basket case and i told her for him. she didnt believe me and confronted him. he lied . she called me to cuss me out. i told her the name of the medicine (valtrex) the place he had it filled at (rite aide and the address and phone number) then i gave her the refill number listed on the bottle with the last date it was filled.
i told her to get a guy to call and pretend to be him and have it refilled and to go pick it up and then confront him.
she did it and finally he had to tell the truth. by then , i think she had it already and he just convinced her it was a yeast infection or something.
for the record, i think it very cruel to spread an std around on 2 different occasions to 2 different people and act like it is nothing.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What a douchebag. He conned the girls grandma into calling you on this.

And yeah you really cant test for herpes without an outbreak. They only use pcr if you have a case that has infected your spinal column or brain, and they use spinal fluid for the dna source.
 

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belividere said:
What a douchebag. He conned the girls grandma into calling you on this.

And yeah you really cant test for herpes without an outbreak. They only use pcr if you have a case that has infected your spinal column or brain, and they use spinal fluid for the dna source.
shoot, once you have an outbreak you dont need no stinkin test. my dr just gazed down at them and said yep thats herpes.

two years later i gave birth to a baby and i had her tested to see if she caught it from me. (just in case) they did a skin test and a blood test and both were negative.
 

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NeonBase said:
Just ask her. If that dude wanted to kiss her and she has herpes... Kinda makes me think the dude's lying!
No, you don't get genital herpes from kissing, morons.
penkitten said:
my ex who gave me herpes, didnt tell his new girlfriend about his herpes.

for the record, i think it very cruel to spread an std around on 2 different occasions to 2 different people and act like it is nothing.
That's why I wouldn't blow off a 3rd party informant. They are often far more credible than that person themself.

Sadly, denial and deceit (self and others) are the names of the game for many with STDs...
 
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This seems to me like a lot drama to deal with for just ONE girl.

Sure he may be lying, but damn, is this dating one girl worth the drama. I remind you, she just one girl out of many.

My experience says this is a NEXT waiting to happen.

Ask yourself this. If the other dude is so underhanded and manipulative, then what is SHE doing fcking with him?

As one of the older sosuave posters, my advice is NEXT. You're too young to be potentially jeapordizing your health over some bullsht.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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^ Yes, but that is not genital herpes (simplex 2).

The herpes virus family is big and includes oral, genital...as well as chickenpox, shingles (herpes zoster), cytomegalovirus, etc. They are all related, but not the same, though.
 
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taken from this site http://www.herpes.com/genitalinfo.shtml

"Oral herpes can be transmitted to the genitals, and vice versa. Symptoms are similar"

"Transmission is caused by close oral, anal, or genital contact, including intercourse, masturbation, kissing, or any direct skin-to-skin contact which allows for the transfer of bodily fluids"
 

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AVERAGE & FRUSTRATED said:
"Oral herpes can be transmitted to the genitals, and vice versa. Symptoms are similar"
Yes, but oral herpes (simplex 1) in your genitals is still simplex 1 (oral), not simplex 2 (genital). They're different strains, no matter where they occur. Simplex 1 just tends to occur orally and simplex 2 genitally.
 
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One thing I reccomend is to "DJ" this whole situation. How?

-Get yourself tested (ok...i don't what the verdict was, can you or can you NOT test for it...if you can though, DO IT)

-Leave this girl. A real DJ doesn't put up with this crap from a girl thats not even his g/f. A real DJ knows there are plenty more out there, and its not worth raising your heart rate, stress levels and blood pressure over some girl who has a psycho guy friend.

Ah, the wisdom of age!
 

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penkitten said:
well its one of these ways or the other.
1. the guy likes her sooo much that he is willing to spread lies to other guys to keep them away from her so she will be so lonely she might just give him a chance.
2. she didnt want to kiss him because she has herpes and she hasnt told you yet because she is embarrassed. its not a thing most people like to hear.
3. she didnt like him but wanted to spare his feelings and told him she had herpes so he would leave her alone.



i could easily see it all those ways.
my ex who gave me herpes, didnt tell his new girlfriend about his herpes. she started calling me and harrassing me because shes a young dumb basket case and i told her for him. she didnt believe me and confronted him. he lied . she called me to cuss me out. i told her the name of the medicine (valtrex) the place he had it filled at (rite aide and the address and phone number) then i gave her the refill number listed on the bottle with the last date it was filled.
i told her to get a guy to call and pretend to be him and have it refilled and to go pick it up and then confront him.
she did it and finally he had to tell the truth. by then , i think she had it already and he just convinced her it was a yeast infection or something.
for the record, i think it very cruel to spread an std around on 2 different occasions to 2 different people and act like it is nothing.
What a ****ed up man.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DJDamage said:
If you want you can always tell her that as a healthy person who engage in sex, you have a yearly checkup and ask her to join you. DJD

I love this idea. A simple "Hey, I was thinking about getting real serious about all being healthy and stuff and figured I'd start doing like an annual check up. Doctor's visit, dentist, maybe even get an STD test or whatever. I don't have anything, but it'd be nice to prove it for sure ya know? I was thinking we could do all this together.

Or something like that? lol Not sure how to go with that conversation.
 
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