"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I want to take it slow"

R3N3G4D3

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So I started seeing this girl. Everything is fine, she feels comfortbale with me and my friends, when I start making out with her she keeps excited for hours, starts breathing heavily, everything. The only problem is, the cliched "I want to take it slow" when I try to have sex with her.

We've been seeing eachother for a few days now, but today was the first time I tried to take her shirt off of her, and she looked me in the eyes and shook her head in disagreement. So I'm thinking maybe she's not aroused enough yet, I continue making out with her, kiss her neck, stroke her hair, everything. Soon she starts breathing like she ran a mile, hugs me tighter, and starts kissing my neck in response. After half an hour more I ask her if she's sure she doesn't want to take it a step further, and she replies with "I'm sorry, but I just don't want to take it too fast". So after half an hour more of this make-out stuff I got bored, found an excuse to finish it and went to watch TV, she sat with me for a while then said that since it's already 3 in the morning she needs to go back to her place.

So my question is, when they say they don't want to rush it, how long do they have in mind? A week? 2 weeks? Cuz I'm definatelly not waiting for a year to get her into bed. And also, is this one of those things where the girl sees you as a potential provider and witholds sex on purpose, or is it actually that she's the type who wants to take it slow? And, while we're on the topic, you guys have any tips to speed it up?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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too suave

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the question you need to ask yourself is if you just want to have sex with the girl or something more. if a few days seems too long for you just move to another girl cause eventually you'll find one that puts out on the first date
 

Krassus

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How long did she have in mind? Why the hell are you asking US? Ask HER! Learn to communicate :D It boggles my mind how much people around here overcomplicate things.

Her: This is too soon..
Me: Aww, so you're a nice little choir girl then, aren't you? Well, when's it not gonna be "too soon," holiness?
Her: Um... i dunno... a week?
Me: Aw, you're gonna take the time to let the priest go gently! That's sweet!
Her: Fvck you!! :D
Me: Hahah! Get your ass up, lets go eat! *smack ass*
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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