"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"I want to take it SLOW"

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Warrior74 said:
Flake. Go ghost. Move on. Next. Don't say another word to her. Don't respond to her texts, no good byes and here's whys. Just go ghost.

I had a chic do the same to me. Told me how she used to be a hore in college. How she used to get blackout drunk and party with frat boys. How she loves sex and how good she is at it. Then we get back to my place and she tells me she's looking for marriage and won't have sex until she's been dating a guy for 6 months. LOOOOOOL. I dropped her like I was Snoop.

What she is telling me is that she thinks I'm less than. I don't even deserve to be lied to. My feelings and considerations don't matter. She has an agenda and I am only a high valued target that she must lure in with promises of pleasure. That's her thinking.

My thinking is, did you just advertise your wh0redom and the bait and switched me? We leave businesses and never return when they try to pull that in the market place. The same thing applies in the sexual market place. You sold me on a quality bed bunny grade A all amerikunt wh0re and now you are trying to sell me miss good girl? WUT? No thank you, I'll take my business else where.

After I dropped her, I ran into her a few months later with some thug dude. She came up to me when he was in the can and asked me with tears in her eyes why no good man wants her. Then she told me how her current guy was cheating on her and started crying. I just walked away. Did I feel a little bad for her? Yah. Was there any way I could explain it to her that she could understand? Nope. Did I want to be there when her boyfriend came back? Hell no. GO GHOST.
Good advice here. I think he should try one more time with this women though imo.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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to say this chick is a coke ***** might be a bit harsh. She talked about living in Florida and doing coke sometimes. This chick has a phd and a real good job at a major university, so I doubt she is still out coking it up every night.
But, point taken. Obviously this chick has had plenty of single night hookups in her career, and to hold out on me is BS.
 

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All women play games. All women play hard to get and want that feeling of beingin control. Let them have it i say. You dont have to go along with it, since you know the rules and can bend them anytime you want.

If she says she is a 7 date kinda girl, it seems to me like she is up for it. What's the rush? If you are attracted to her, then look like you are playing along.

In the meantime, out of view, spin em.
 

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SLOW girl just texts me about some random BS, somehow the convo ends up her mentioning the size of my c0ck....then she invites me to dinner tomorrow. Haha, wtf.
I declined claiming I have to work out of town tomorrow, which I do, but dinner would totally be doable, I get home at normal time.

Excellent. She's been thinking about it. And your unavailability will increase her tension/desire.

Like many on this board have said: "don't believe the words, believe the action."

So what if she says, she's a "7 dates then goes for it" gal.

The fact is, if you get her juices flowing, it won't take 7 dates. PERIOD.

A friend of mine pulled the reverse on his new woman, saying "let's wait for many dates first." She tore his clothes off and banged his brains out on the 3rd date.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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MtnMan said:
to say this chick is a coke ***** might be a bit harsh. She talked about living in Florida and doing coke sometimes.
So what? She still did coke. You just don't know how much. Party girls like that always do their fair share. These ugly looking creepy give them drugs for sex. You can bet she was wh0ring it up most of the time. She told you enough to know you're dealing with a wh0re.

MtnMan said:
This chick has a phd and a real good job at a major university, so I doubt she is still out coking it up every night.
She's on a dating site so that has to tell you something. It doesn't matter what kind of job she has. Professionals in any position can still do drugs especially since she was an user before. That doesn't matter. What does matter is her opening up her legs for you like she has done many times before. Her opening for you should be no different where you don't have to wait.

MtnMan said:
But, point taken. Obviously this chick has had plenty of single night hookups in her career, and to hold out on me is BS.
I agree, you shouldn't have to wait. Do what Rascal said, get her over at your place and go for sex. If she backs off again next her for good. Don't give this chick any special kind of treatment. That's what she is looking for from you. She isn't a quality chick to get that from you.
 

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I would not invest too much in what she says. Reminds me of when girls are like "we're NOT having sex tonight" (almost always ends in her specifically asking for sex at the end of the night).
 

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i think the problem has sorted itself out gents. We had planned to meet up friday after I was done with a friends birthday, she flaked with some long excuse about forgotten plans.
Best to let this one go, glad I didn't have to do the dirty work.
 

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MtnMan said:
i think the problem has sorted itself out gents. We had planned to meet up friday after I was done with a friends birthday, she flaked with some long excuse about forgotten plans.
Best to let this one go, glad I didn't have to do the dirty work.
you should of let her go when she left your place without sex. why were you doing what she wanted for another date? that's why she flaked, don't let chicks plan dates.
 

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asa_don said:
you should of let her go when she left your place without sex. why were you doing what she wanted for another date? that's why she flaked, don't let chicks plan dates.
You are right about letting her go. This date was my idea because I was going to be in her hood. I'm still learning here gents. Don't let my age fool you, I was a serial ltr guy until 6 months ago
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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She flaked because the man she wanted asked her out.

OP, if a woman says she wants to take it slow, say "that's fine, I have other options." Then go ghost for a while.

This thread will help you in the future.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207614
 

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MtnMan said:
i think the problem has sorted itself out gents. We had planned to meet up friday after I was done with a friends birthday, she flaked with some long excuse about forgotten plans.
Best to let this one go, glad I didn't have to do the dirty work.
I wonder what Frogster has to say about this?

Just delete her number. If she contacts you again, ignore her. She declined sex at your place, now she flaked on you after you made plans. What more proof do you need that she isn't interested in sex? She will just string you along if you keep talking with her. She's going to get pounded Friday night by some other guy. Look for a respectable women instead. Not a coke wh0re that strings you along.
 
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