"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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i want honest opinions on mystery method

BongDuy

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So i've read the game twice, and am revisiting the Magic Bullet, and i was wondering what anyone else thought about it? When i first discovered the book i was in highschool and didn't really understand it. after about a dozen of trial and errors over the years, ive learned that some of this stuff is becoming more clear.

What I want to know is what you guys think about the method. I look at the steps, such as opening, transitioning, attracting ( or getting some interests), qualifying, etc, and they make sense to me, right? they give a basic walkthrough, or a goal, in each interaction, of what you should try to do.


Thoughts?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mystery method is based on being fake.

He knows a lot about human nature, and that's about all you should take from it imho.

I have only read parts of it though. There's a lot of bulls*it in the book, but also a lot of useful info.
 
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Chamber36 said:
Mystery method is based on being fake.
That's about it.

I think the Mystery Method is most effective for people who would rather be Mystery than themselves. It's not absolute garbage and I've gotten some of his stuff to work before, but think about what it's called.... it's "The MYSTERY Method".... it's his stuff.

You would be better served by defining your own inner game and constructing an outer game based on that rather than memorizing a bunch of routines and other gambits. I've never met a girl who was willing to go home with me because I could do a coin trick or some kind of mentalist trick like Style's 4 questions routine. Mystery was a magician so that stuff appealed to him. I'm not a magician, and even though I like the idea of slights of hand and think they're interesting, I wasn't congruent with the stuff. And only you will be able to find out what you will be congruent with.
 

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DJ philosophy promoted on sosuave is totally different from pick-up artistry.

PUA's like Mystery will tell you to learn lines, magic tricks, and script everything out like you're some actor.

Don Juans strive to improve themselves from the inside so it's more natural.

Since this is sosuave and not a PUA forum, you'll find most people here prefer the Don Juan philosophy.
 

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There is some value in it in terms of outlying the framework for social interactions. Don't follow it dogmatically though, or else you'll turn into a social robot/nerd. There are a good amount of key principles to learn and use.

As for the "fake" part, that only applies if guys are using the EXAMPLES that he writes word for word. He outlines a specific scenario, then gives some possible responses. Where guys go wrong is they repeat those responses verbatim, and it's incongruent because you don't normally say sh*t like "Oh my god, you have the prettiest eyes. May I touch them?"
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Honestly, I think the Mystery Method is outdated, not that it's entirely obsolete, but there are many programs out there with a lot of ones that could be more suited for you. The important thing is to find something that YOU like and works for YOU.
 

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Chamber36 said:
Mystery method is based on being fake.
yeah, you are right in this. when i made the first post, i didn't really take into consideration his style and how he teaches them. What i mean by that is that i didn't read his material and think " oh, im going to peacock with a fuzzy hat, and do magic tricks to get laid". I was just interesting in the outline of the social interaction with a woman.
 

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It's not based on being fake, it's based on being an "entertainer."
 

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Well I dig the things he says about silverback gorillas.

For example that the female will sit behind the silverback with her back towards him, and wait for him to approach. That's basically how it goes in the club.

There's plenty of info there that'll help you analyse situations. The whole vocabulary with words like qualify, DHV/DLV, AMOG, will help u see social interactions in a new light. It's 'The Game' that helped me see the game more as a game though. It's really like dungeons and dragons from 'The Game''s point of view. With a bunch of stages that you need to get through.

Mystery's viewpoints that women are attracted to the tribal leader are also very very helpful. There's a lot of controversy whether it's necessary to be Alpha. I think it's best to be the AMOG. The AMOG isn't always a brutish loudmouth.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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