"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I want financial freedom by the time I'm 21
- Thread starter longwood
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
cave dweller
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chip and longwood,
A couple of things here.......
1.....Raw land has no income....
2.....A mortgage on a duplex covers both sides.
3.....Get all of your real estate answers from:
creonline.com
agentsonline.net
3.....There are a zillion real estate web sites and books out there to study.
cave dweller
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Page
Master Don Juan
if you're just starting out, I wouldn't buy vacant land b/c you're paying for something that won't give you anything unless you develop it or sell it to some developer.
Plus, there has to be demand for a piece of land for you to resell it. I've seen land offered for sale for many years before someone buys it.
Since you're giving so much advice, why don't you disclose the properties you own and other investments you have?
This thread is hilarious. I remember you, Page, a few months ago trying to learn everything you could from STR8UP about how to invest in real estate. Now, you've gone out and read a few books and you think you know everything?
I don't mean to be harsh, but you're 21 years old, don't have much experience, and I'm unsure you even own any properties. Most of your advice appears good and I don't have the experience to dispute it either, but please make it clear to these guys whether you've actually tried the things you are recommending and how long you've been doing it.
Perhaps, a better thread for those interested in real estate would be STR8UP's thread (where Page was the one asking questions):
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=22304&perpage=20&pagenumber=14
Well, we can see there that as of about 3 months ago, it looks like Page had no investments whatsoever.
Page
Master Don Juan
Are you going out of your way to act like a d!ck or something?
I already said at the beginning of this thread that I haven't started actively investing yet, but I HAVE been laying the foundation for it and i'll be ready to start soon. I'm covering the questions b/c Str8up isn't here to do it, and besides, most of what has been discussed in this thread deal with principles of investing, so actual experience is moot.
Real Estate is a fantastic investment. Carefull planning and a long term approach are what make it work. It is not the only way. Basically if you want to make serious cash, there are only four basic ways.
1. Marry or inheirt money.
2. Sales.
3. Patents or other intelectual property.
4. Business ownership.
What I recomend for a young man without any capital is to dive into sales first. It is hard, really hard. But you will learn more about human nature quicker than any other way. Also, literally if you just simply work harder, you will get the sales. It really is just a matter of sticking it out.
I am not a great salesman. I'm passable. When I was younger, I had a really crappy job selling credit cards to people in the mall. Even though, I was not the best, I still ended up making the most $$$ because I just simply outworked the other salespeople. Everyone who came into stupid mall I hit up. I just would not stop. While no fun at all, I was making close to $400 a week in 1986 ( pretty good for a 19 year old).
No matter what, sales drives every organization. Build a strong level of skill in that first, and everything else will fall into place.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Page
Master Don Juan
The world has changed so much in the last 50 years that you can't really do that and be financially secure anymore. Job security is a thing of the past. Companies crumble overnight these days and pensions can disappear into nothing just like that.
Don't count on social security either-- if you are in your 20s right now, it will be in serious trouble by the time you are eligible for it. These days, you have to make it on your own.
TheMainMan
Don Juan
Check out these links. It isn't the time to get into Real Estate, certainly not over here in the UK.
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4079458
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4079027
Actually, they don't even teach you that. The main thing you learn is ethics and how to stay out of hot water by sticking to the law.
I would allow ten years to hit a million. It can be done in less time, but don't count on it. You need to learn how to use money (borrowed money, especially in the beginning) to make money, and don't fall into the "hard work and saving pennies makes you rich" trap. You MUST learn how to use leverage to get you from point A to point B in the shortest amount of time.
It sounds like you are pretty gung-ho on this. Stick with it, it's DEFINITELY worth it! I LOVE my life and my lifestyle, and I'm only in my early 30's. IT CAN BE DONE!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Page
Master Don Juan
This doesn't happen overnight. You can start now and probably end up owning your first asset property by the end of 3.5 years if you push yourself hard enough, but at that point, you would still be a long ways from financial freedom, which is what you really want out of all this. Getting rich quick is a dream that doesn't really exist in the real world unless you start dealing coke or something like that. Building legitimately-acquired wealth takes time, and you WILL have to work your a$$ off in the first few years, but once your cashflow becomes self-sustaining it will all be worth it b/c then, and only then, you will be able to live life at your own pace and do what you want to do while everyone else is still punching the clock until age 65.
Actually, while what you're saying is right, you're speaking of what's called by many RE investors, Negative Cashflow , or simply by its nickname, alligator.
If you buy smart, you can get immediate cash on closing and positive cashflow on the first week you buy. And on your first property which will sustain itself for the rest of your life if you take care of your tenants.
Page
Master Don Juan
If he manages to do that on all of his properties , and assuming he always buys a property each year, he *could* possibly get financial freedom in 3.5 years, depending on how much money he needs. Financial freedom is relative; the ammount needed to be financially free varies from person to person.
To me, financial freedom is the situation where my monthly asset-derived income exceeds my monthly base expenses, and therefore leaves me with perpetually increasing positive cashflow every month.
I agree with you Page.
Of course, this also assumes many other things, such as, he devotes most of his time to investing in real estate and he really wants it bad enough.
Real estate investing is hard enough to make most people give up on their first investment "try-out".
He could also achieve freedom in one year if he's very good in owning business. I've always believed it's not the product as per se. Put Bill Gates into a poor business and it'll be up running in no time. Leadership counts.
Or if he's lucky enough to win the lottery.
i drive a new bmw, i have a $4000 breitling watch, armani, canalli, zegna suits gallore.
the funny thing is that all my friends think im an arrogant showoff. everybody put me down when i first started. and i dont blame them. but now i have the knowledge to make $1,000,000. how you might ask...foreclosure properties. buy them and rent them to the current owners. when they dont pay you, take the house and sell it. theres other ways to make more $ but i cant get into it due to the legalities of it. it feels so good to buy whatever you want. example: today i went and bought a 2 piece coach wallet. $130. in conclusion the key to being successful is to stay focused and only listen to people who are themselves successful. everyone else i.e. friends, family, coworkers will only bring you down. remember nobody wants YOU to succeed. if anybody has questions pm me.
-mike
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.