"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I want a guy that will make me laugh"

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How many times have we heard this one?

This phrase is so brainwashed into everyone’s heads. Any thoughts one what it really means? What is the woman-ese behind this?

Also, I don't recall the last time a guy said, "I want a girl that can make me laugh" Perhaps
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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00Kevin said:
...Also, I don't recall the last time a guy said, "I want a girl that can make me laugh" Perhaps
That's a prerequisite that I have. I don't want to be the sole entertainer in a relationship, I want someone who's nimble enough to find funny things in different situations and is able to expound on them. Why should I be the only one to find humor in different things?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
That's a prerequisite that I have. I don't want to be the sole entertainer in a relationship, I want someone who's nimble enough to find funny things in different situations and is able to expound on them. Why should I be the only one to find humor in different things?
This is very true. In fact, the next time a girl says that to me I'm going to say the same thing back to her. I wonder how she will react.

She will most likely think, "what....you mean I have to do something? hugh...."

yeah that will fu-ck her up a bit. :)
 
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Humor and wit are masculine traits - thus the woman. being our complementary nature, wants that which she does not have or could attain!

Good luck finding a funny girl -- they don't exist!! Don't confuse funny with "fun" girl!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Humor and wit are masculine traits - thus the woman. being our complementary nature, wants that which she does not have or could attain!

Good luck finding a funny girl -- they don't exist!! Don't confuse funny with "fun" girl!!
True, I haven't met a funny girl yet, although I do appreciate a girl that laughs at my stupid dry humor and rolls with it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Here's the best come-back like for that one:

"You mean the mirror is not enough for you?" and just jab her like you are teasing her. If she gets offended, "what, dont be like that, why do you take everything so seriously"
 

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00Kevin said:
How many times have we heard this one?

This phrase is so brainwashed into everyone’s heads. Any thoughts one what it really means? What is the woman-ese behind this?

Also, I don't recall the last time a guy said, "I want a girl that can make me laugh" Perhaps
I hear that bull all the time. What it is, is that it's not the sole thing she looks for, but one of millions of things she wants.

I had a woman tell me she wanted guy who was good with kids and who had a sense of humor (damn, I didn't call her on it), and "looks don't matter." She volunteered that one. I've known the girl for three months; I started laughing, darn water went down the wrong pipe with that one. She looks annoyed, so I roll my eyes and leave rather than start arguing.

(Right. AND he has to earn 95,000 a year, be always around to enjoy the money with her, he has to work out, he has to be a model, (though looks don't matter... riiiight) he has to have a nice butt, he has to compliment her all the time (but it has to be really, and NOT phoney), He has to take her out all the time (hey, you have to walk the dog sometime). Yeah, good luck with all of that, liar).

Dude, it's a small desire within a million other desires. Just realize that if you make her laugh, it doesn't matter jack squat. It makes some things a little easier, but ultimately, if she's not interested, she's not interested. Just realize she's giving lip service, (and not the kind some guys like)
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Humor and wit are masculine traits - thus the woman. being our complementary nature, wants that which she does not have or could attain!

Good luck finding a funny girl -- they don't exist!! Don't confuse funny with "fun" girl!!
I have to agree here. I love women as much as the next guy. But the creatures just aren't funny. Even the professional comedian women always pale in comparison to some of the male counterparts.
 

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00Kevin said:
How many times have we heard this one?

This phrase is so brainwashed into everyone’s heads. Any thoughts one what it really means? What is the woman-ese behind this?

Also, I don't recall the last time a guy said, "I want a girl that can make me laugh" Perhaps
i've heard this a bunch of times too, but it really doesnt mean much. remember, women's actions matter, not so much their words. laughter gets some attraction, but ur tryin to ge her bf, not her personal clown.

basically, it jus means dont be a boring chump. u dont have to be a clown just not TOO dull.
 

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azanon said:
I have to agree here. I love women as much as the next guy. But the creatures just aren't funny. Even the professional comedian women always pale in comparison to some of the male counterparts.
lol ii dont get it though. why is it so hard for women to be funny?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Raikojo17 said:
lol ii dont get it though. why is it so hard for women to be funny?
I dont really know. All i know is that they're just not funny. Some of them think they are, but they're not. I hate when I have to laugh on cue just to continue to move along towards getting some later.
 
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Raikojo17 said:
lol ii dont get it though. why is it so hard for women to be funny?
Our natures/brains are wired to be complementary to one another - one is a sender and the other is a receiver!

Just as what men lack in compassion and nurturing the woman has plenty of!!
 

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They find you funny if you are just comfortable in their presence.

(read this again, it is deeper than it sounds)
 

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PathGoer said:
They find you funny if you are just comfortable in their presence.

(read this again, it is deeper than it sounds)
I think women have totally different sense of humor. When a woman says she needs someone to make her laugh, she's not really refering to the standup-comedian way of being funny. Men always immediately compare themselves with their favorite standup-comedian, and feel intimidated when they think they can't live up to that "imagined" expectation.

I wonder...can a woman laugh at herself? Never experienced that. I know guys can laugh about themselves. Sometimes I just laugh my ass off about the ****ing dumb AFC stuff I did in the past to get women.:crackup:

I suspect that women (and a small % men) only laugh at themselves when they're under some kind of social pressure. But that's not what I mean. I mean laughing about yourself - by yourself - because a certain situation just seems comical.
 

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I'm a naturally funny guy if I feel comfortable enough. If i'm uptight being around me will be about as fun as attending a funeral. I think the funny some women think of is relaxing type of humor a few jokes here and there. Not the stand up comedian.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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There are always enough SNAFUs, especially when women are around. If you handle them in a fun way, that should be enough in the "make me laugh" department.

A different question, however.

what is a good comeback if she says "I want a guy who makes me laugh"?
 

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Say I want a girl with just a personality.
 
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