Ive been on this site for a while now (both as a poster and a lurker). And I've been a member of other pick up sites. And in all that time I've yet to gain the skills I need to get laid. I'm sure these sites are great for some guys, but unfortunately I'm still missing a piece of the puzzle (which I'm hoping is just material possessions). But anyway, just wanted to thank anyone that has tried to help me, I appreciate it. And the entertainment this site has provided was good too. But unfortunately I'm finishing my last year of my second degree this year, and between client meetings for my industrial project, classes, assigments, and work I doubt I'll have time to go out and meet women. And I'm obviously not qualified to give advice. So I'll take my leave. Good luck to all you guys out there.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I think this will be my last post on this site
- Thread starter Scion
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
It's cool that you've found success when you didn't try. I however have never found any success by not trying (hence why I'm still a virgin, I didn't try with women til I was 23, and since then I've had very limited success).
What have you done?
List out everything you have done to change your fate.
If you don't have time because of work and school, I completely understand. I dont have much time right now myself. Im at work on sunday, I work 12-15hrs a day 6 days a week. But if you are using it as an excuse...don't. Be honest with yourself. Have you done everything you can do? List it out for us.
List out everything you have done to change your fate.
If you don't have time because of work and school, I completely understand. I dont have much time right now myself. Im at work on sunday, I work 12-15hrs a day 6 days a week. But if you are using it as an excuse...don't. Be honest with yourself. Have you done everything you can do? List it out for us.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
How old are you? Where do you meet women?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
What you are missing is EXPERIENCE. All the reading and learning is useless without practical application. Also, saying that you don't have time to meet women is just an excuse. Don't slip into that mindset!
^__^
Don Juan
If you sincerely believe women are not important for you right now, then let it be. It is imperative, though, that you remain in shape and looking good, so when you have a badass job with two degrees, women will practically throw themselves at you.
Good luck.
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Good luck.
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kingxxxman
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what other dating advice sites are out there that are worth subscribing/looking into?
I just don't have time this year to go out more than once a week (fri night will be my only night to socialize, the others will be needed to work or for course work). I need to concentrate on my studies this year, since this is the year that employers will pay attention to. I know from past experiences that going out 1 night a week won't be enough to meet enough women to get the experience I need. This summer I've been going out 2-3 times a week on average. You know how many girls numbers I currently have to show for it? One, and I'm getting the vibe that she's not interested since we've been out a couple of times. Any other girl I've met has shown me she wasn't interested immediately (either by rejecting me on the spot or ignoring when I've tried to contact her later). So there's even less chance I'll meet someone if I'm only able to go out half as often. And if I'm not meeting women then there's no reason to come on this site (since I have no right giving advice).
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Scion said:
We need specific examples of your interactions in order to help you. One thing I can tell is you are definitely playing it safe and not sexually escalating with the girls. You are treating them as Queens and would rather be liked than risk rejection. I'd rather she hate you and slap you for trying to touch her than say "I don't want to ruin our friendship"
DonJuan11: yes I've kissed her and made out. We made out the night we met, and everytime after that. No sex, I tried to escalate towards that last time and she slowed me down.
Warrior74: you want me to list my efforts to become better? Ok, but be aware that some of them are for myself.
- finishing my second degree (my previous choice wasn't for me)
- hitting the gym more often (I'm in good shape but want to put on an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle)
- going out more often, since it's the summer and figure it's time to party it up. Though obviously I'm gonna have to cut down the fun soon.
- trying to socialize more
- trying to make more friends
Warrior74: you want me to list my efforts to become better? Ok, but be aware that some of them are for myself.
- finishing my second degree (my previous choice wasn't for me)
- hitting the gym more often (I'm in good shape but want to put on an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle)
- going out more often, since it's the summer and figure it's time to party it up. Though obviously I'm gonna have to cut down the fun soon.
- trying to socialize more
- trying to make more friends
zekko
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That's great, keep at it, things will pay off for you eventually.
If you can only go out once a week, then try to have and be the most fun you can.
I sense a very negative self image coming from you though, you've got to kill that. I've had problems with negative thoughts in the past, and they do nothing for you but hinder you. Don't accept the negative thoughts when they come, stop them in their tracks. You've got to be positive and think highly of yourself. This becomes a habit the more you do it. Keep imagining yourself as the cool guy you want to be, then be that guy.
Yeah, thanks dude, I hope it pays off.zekko said:
On other news, I've decided to next the girl I've been out with a few tes and just go nc. I came to the realization tonight that I don't even like her while I was talking to a girl I actually like (although I found out tonight that she has a boyfriend now, damn). And she's way too much effort just to get a lay, so fvck it. I've gone 25 years without sex or women, what's the big deal about a little more time.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Very abstract? WTF? Didn't know it called for details. All you bet was that I hadn't kissed her or anything. Well here's your details motherfvcker.DonJuan11 said:
Met her at a bar. Was introduced to her by a mutual friend. She seemed interested by giving the usual subtle girl signals. I picked up on them, took her hand and lead her to the dancefloor. Some dancing, she's showing off for me. I lean in for the kiss. We kiss a few times on the dancefloor, then go around the club looking for ppl (with periodic make outs). I get her number later that night and of course kiss more.
We go out twice since then, both fun times (and yes we kiss both times). The last time we head to her place to watch tv, and I start escalating with some mild touching while we kiss. This is where she tells me it's too soon and to slow down. We continue to kiss and I leave since she needs to get ready to meet her friends.
Thing that pisses me off about her is she's horrible at getting back to me (though from what I hear from our mutual friend this is what she's like). That's why I don't think it's worth the effort to fvck her. It's just frustration that I don't need.
Just a Shot Away
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Calm down, man. He's trying to help you.Scion said:
How are you number closing and making out with chicks at the club without taking anyone home? Do you not try to take them home? Do they reject you when you try to change venue?
I don't normally get numbers or make outs at clubs. This girl was one of the exceptions. Most girls straight up reject me. Which pisses me off since I'm a great guy ( good personality, good looking, going places in life). And while I know that I'm great I feel like I'm a piece of sh1t.Just a Shot Away said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.