"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I Think I've Messed This Up Beyond Repair [Long][Friends Zone]

Limitless

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Alright I'm first month of University , however I feel it just better to post this in highscool.

I met a girl who lives in my dorm building and we started talking. I began to really like her , we hung out all the time ..ate all our meals together. I was normally ****y and funny , she was always laughing. I teased her , and complimented when appropriate. However , anyways I got to the point where I told her how I felt about two weeks ago.

She told me she just wanted to be friends in a nice way. The problem here is she genuinely meant it , and wanted to consistently continue to hang out. Don't get me wrong it's fun and stuff but the problem is I can't just be friends with a girl I like. I told her I might need three weeks of just space from her.

Then came thanksgiving weekend. I made out with a girl and was feeling pretty good about myself and thought I was over her. SO this resulted in probably the biggest mistake I've made..I told her it was ok for us to hang out again. She was excited , and I was too , shes actually a very good friend and person to hang out with.

Problem is though after a week of hanging out again , I've begun to like her again. And now it's worse because she's cried in my arms about how hurt she was by her ex boyfriend , and other secrets about her. I've moved into the worst of friends zone... one of her best.

I don't know how to stop liking her , or breaking a friendship without seriously hurting her. It is fun and torture being this girl's friend. One-itis is owning me here.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chase12

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Why would u put her needs in front of urs..

Ur the one being tortured hearing how she banged other guys but not u.. so who cares if she gets hurt just cut all contact.. or cut it slowly but dont stay as friends cuz it will only get WORSE...

maybe later when ur over her u can be friends again... maybe
 

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your in friend zone dont even bother with her..,move on.
 

GaryUranga

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I like this, I was in a similar situation I liked this girl and thought itd be a fantastic idea to tell her how I felt, that went awful (as it always does) :p yesterday.. about 4 months since that happened shes acting pretty into me..

what I did.. first started talking about other girls, used C+F, stopped any sort of casual complimenting, and got her to think I didnt like her that way anymore, after a while I just switched from the "just friends" type of comments to mixed signals, either play games or get over her. getting over her is good advice too :p

yesterday she started talking about how a girl liked this guy first, som lyrics in a song, but the guy got to like her after, tsk tsk
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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