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I just find Mystery a bit cringey. Saw this infield on a different pua forum earlier:

Time out.

If we have a montage of you getting girls or worse, you nit getting girls succumbing to soy boy low testosterone lame excuses, i bet the DJ forum will cringe too.

One of the most annoying things about the manosphere is that, more men smash theur idols, other men who cane before them.

MM is virtually nonexistent in 2019. Mystery too however, the basics of what waa taught pushed the manosphere and game forward not backwards.

More importantly, others who come after are more than welcome to show a better way.

From what I have seen, more guys will preach about how easy it is to pull models or preach monogamy as the only way for regular ass despite neither having seen a vagina before lulzlulz!

I really don't rate him that highly, personally. He's clever and a lot of this theories are sound (and I feel lots are wrong too, tbh) but either way, I think there's tonnes of better PUA's. He's also super tall with a handsome face aswell as having lots of social proof etc and.
Lmfao @ handsome face.

He's a modern day Bradley Cooper with a m8x of David Beckham.... Wait wut?

I feel the results he DID get were basically a result of them factors, and not his neg or whatever.
Again, you are more than welcome to show us all a better way. Forgive me for my skepticism lol

Given my experience in pickup, 99% of guys talk theory and can't approach.

Yes, there's a creep aspect of pickup but i concur with Tyler. The only thing creepier is not knowing how to pickup girls.

This herein lies 99.9999 % of guys especially in 2019 whereby masculinity is demonised and even men who step up are attacked by cucks and male feminists. Ie cannot compete so they pose as allies. Its beyond pathetic.

A decade +/- of pickup and i am skull ****in a new plate in her 20s on a week night. Out with a new girl days later.

I didn't say model like that other cuck nor did I promote monogamy.

I got to pay respect to the OGs that came before me (mystery, rsd tyler, julien, RooshV, JMLUV, David D, rollo, etc). Big ups!

Bottom line, you boys gotta do the work. Pull from everywhere. And moreover, March to the beat of your own drum.
 

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I just find Mystery a bit cringey. Saw this infield on a different pua forum earlier:


I really don't rate him that highly, personally. He's clever and a lot of this theories are sound (and I feel lots are wrong too, tbh) but either way, I think there's tonnes of better PUA's. He's also super tall with a handsome face aswell as having lots of social proof etc and I feel the results he DID get were basically a result of them factors, and not his neg or whatever.
He kooks like he's on something lol...this might be how he has confidence. Been there, they can tell...
Not to be too judgmental, but is this in CA? The scene looks much different than I'm used to.
 

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MM is virtually nonexistent in 2019. Mystery too however, the basics of what waa taught pushed the manosphere and game forward not backwards.
Mystery Method, with its canned routines and all, formed a foundation for what was to come (which included a backlash against routines and a focus more on inner game). Like I said before, Mystery and the other guys around at the time, served their purpose in that they had to start the conversation somewhere.

That said, guys have been picking up women and seeking advice on how to do it since the beginning of the human race, so little of it was new under the sun. Trying to come up with a step by step formula, and creating an internet community was new though.
 

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He kooks like he's on something lol...this might be how he has confidence. Been there, they can tell...
Not to be too judgmental, but is this in CA? The scene looks much different than I'm used to.
It would likely explain why the market is over saturated with people who lack half his skills, talent, charm, and game. He is the godfather of pua and has nothing to show for it. Its a failure model to learn from. Forever mirrin #wohoooooo regardless.
 

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The RSDNation forums going up in smoke pisses me off because I was a member there from like 2010-2014 and wrote some very good posts. It was like a journal for me, and whenever I got myself into a rut, I'd go back and read my own posts to remind myself of insights I needed in those moments.

Now it is gone.

Ironically, sosuave is still around after aalllll these years. I legit joined sosuave when I was in high school and I'm in my 30's now.

Whenever I frequented the RSD forums, I always got the vibe that a lot of these guys were actually going out, going on dates, and getting laid, whereas sosuave seemed to be filled with a lot of terrific inner game stuff but lax on action.

In any event, maybe I will start posting here again to log my thoughts if nothing else. A progress / thought journal of sorts is tremendously beneficial.
 

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I just find Mystery a bit cringey. Saw this infield on a different pua forum earlier:


I really don't rate him that highly, personally. He's clever and a lot of this theories are sound (and I feel lots are wrong too, tbh) but either way, I think there's tonnes of better PUA's. He's also super tall with a handsome face aswell as having lots of social proof etc and I feel the results he DID get were basically a result of them factors, and not his neg or whatever.
I remember seeing this before and boy was it cringe. I think he was too in his head at the time, and maybe a bit too inebriated to think straight, especially since he would think in such analytic terms. The girl was soo into him and he totally acted weird as crap. I mean what a friggin' nice girl that she stuck through all that. I wonder if she felt bad for him or something or just wanted to show her friends she could talk to strangers.

However, we can't deny the fact that Mystery where he's at now is a complete G. I'm almost certain he's slept with thousands of women in his life. Afterall he's been doing this longer than some of us on this forum have been alive.
 

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The RSDNation forums going up in smoke pisses me off because I was a member there from like 2010-2014 and wrote some very good posts. It was like a journal for me, and whenever I got myself into a rut, I'd go back and read my own posts to remind myself of insights I needed in those moments.

Now it is gone.

Ironically, sosuave is still around after aalllll these years. I legit joined sosuave when I was in high school and I'm in my 30's now.

Whenever I frequented the RSD forums, I always got the vibe that a lot of these guys were actually going out, going on dates, and getting laid, whereas sosuave seemed to be filled with a lot of terrific inner game stuff but lax on action.

In any event, maybe I will start posting here again to log my thoughts if nothing else. A progress / thought journal of sorts is tremendously beneficial.
Tyler blames us for not stopping it haha. He probably took the brown acid. Lulz!

I enjoyed rsd. I know they get hate from married belligerent fellas like rollo and others who have never seen a vagina from pickup in the past quarter century. Rsd is epic especially the old pre scandal rubbish.

Rsd nation fell off ages ago. The incel movement, forever alone, the phaggotry of fellas not approaching or crying in the net was what sunk it. I remember useful members like distant light ambiguity, China boy (Alex intern), denton aka Karisma King, jmulv even if he bangs hookers and is a bit rapey lololol, and others. Man ***** the mod is a phaggot who trashed rsd and hid once the **** storm kicked off. He swung from the rsd nuts when he was allowed. Brad was a loser. Alex left, Todd too, and Luke cannot do pickup at gunpoint. Its over now. The sunk cost fallacy is rsdnation.

The old rsd content, the julien manifesto, the long but insightful Tyler's philosophy as well as infield were game changers. The 6 steps is noob gold. On your worst night out, its gold. Pickup is dead beyond Tusk and a few others. Red pill don't approach beyond Troy Francis. The current generation of men are low t, don't approach pickup or pull. Instead need apps. Cowardice in reliance on the passive female dating strategy.


If i were to guess, you broke up or are back in the game. Nothing is changing but female entitlement. Number close isn't a thing. Pull or next is still the gold standard. YouTube is full of marriage coaches shilling nonsense and no infield or receipts. Outside the new school, Tusk, Austen Summers, Coach Kyle, Karisma King, PWF, i don't know a source of any alternative. The old rsd archive is great. Mystery method is stoll solid. Female entitlement is still going and it never changes until the wall.

I highly recommend you subscribe to the Aaron clarey enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can.
 

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I remember seeing this before and boy was it cringe. I think he was too in his head at the time, and maybe a bit too inebriated to think straight, especially since he would think in such analytic terms. The girl was soo into him and he totally acted weird as crap. I mean what a friggin' nice girl that she stuck through all that. I wonder if she felt bad for him or something or just wanted to show her friends she could talk to strangers.

However, we can't deny the fact that Mystery where he's at now is a complete G. I'm almost certain he's slept with thousands of women in his life. Afterall he's been doing this longer than some of us on this forum have been alive.
I saw a thread about the bc with him and beckster. The guy swore by mystery game. Sounded like beckster sucks. Guy mentioned how massive Mystery looks in person. Says that his game is legit. Thinks age is a factor and the era sucks. Men seeking any sort of legacy are in the wrong era. The idea of monogamy no longer is possible to support in the modern era of dating. It is maligned with tinder and ig. Add to the list of female body count, STDs and abortions. Nothing special there in foundation to build a marriage nor family on. I think black pill is defeat'us as is mgtow but it is correct on optics. Miscalculated in application. Marriage is cucked. As is divorce court and child custody. Black pill is correct in terms of the dating market but the approach is still always to pull. Life is way too ****kkkin boring not to try. It's just naive to think a man can fix a woman with porn star kills and play house with then rage when **** goes tits up.
 

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I think if they would of stayed away from hosting in-person pick up classes, it would of worked better, but the second you start running people through any kind of program, the odd ones out are going to hate, especially if your flying out from half way across the country to do something you could very easily do yourself.

Giving people the tools to figure **** out for themselves, that is helping, but when you are just giving info out wholesale, it makes cultivating adaptability very difficult and I'm sure Tyler was aware of this, which is a strike against his credibility to be sure, since it seems he was more interested in cultivating a customer over getting actual results, a road many business models try to walk without lasting success.

Also, these programs allow participants an excuse for not putting in the homework, since they now have somebody else to blame other than themselves and most are going to take that route, like every other route they have taken, because it's easy.

A learning experience if nothing else.
 

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Even though you just resurrected an almost two year old thread, I totally agree. I was actually thinking about it the other day.

I used to enjoy reading posts by experienced members in RSDnation. I felt it was a good way to remind myself of the basic principles and prevent my old self from resurfacing :p And of course, it was a reminder that I should always be taking action.
Yes there were many incel posts and crap like that, but I would just ignore them.

As with RSD, I agree with the posters above. They might have been telemarketers, but some of their old stuff has been gold, and opened my eyes honestly. Nowadays they are all over the place..
 

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I saw a thread about the bc with him and beckster. The guy swore by mystery game. Sounded like beckster sucks. Guy mentioned how massive Mystery looks in person. Says that his game is legit. Thinks age is a factor and the era sucks. Men seeking any sort of legacy are in the wrong era. The idea of monogamy no longer is possible to support in the modern era of dating. It is maligned with tinder and ig. Add to the list of female body count, STDs and abortions. Nothing special there in foundation to build a marriage nor family on. I think black pill is defeat'us as is mgtow but it is correct on optics. Miscalculated in application. Marriage is cucked. As is divorce court and child custody. Black pill is correct in terms of the dating market but the approach is still always to pull. Life is way too ****kkkin boring not to try. It's just naive to think a man can fix a woman with porn star kills and play house with then rage when **** goes tits up.
Mystery is a dork who thought he had to do "game" to get girls. Not knowing that his height and long hair alone made him a great asset to women looking for someone to sleep with. The fact is, he had the personality of a weirdo so he had to create his own schemes to try to get laid. He had to convince himself of these ideas and concepts he learned from some douchebags before him. You really can't teach game because what works for some doesn't work for others.. However, the type of stuff Mystery laid out made it more of a universal science. He didn't originate all the ideas, but he took skinny short bald men like Style and taught them how to get laid . Guys who knew nothing about women basically.

and as far as all the other stuff you said:
Monogamy is still possible of course.. I mean to think it's not is really farfetched. But, to address the problems you mentioned, It's because a lot of American society is filth man. Some places Down South still have some good values.. like old Christian conservative values. I mean, depends on the people too.. if you see Muslim communities, they don't have these same issues either. STDS almost don't exist in Muslim communities. Neither does alcoholism or gambling. Divorce rates are super low as well. Yet the religion get so much hate because the propaganda war machine. Either way, yes there are still great values in America as well.. Its hard to see them when your'e focused on the wrong things.. However, the fact that 1 in 4 adults has an STD/STI is ****ing alarming. The fact that 1 in 5 people is on psychiatric meds.. ****ing crazy. I mean we're talking a country of 200 million people.. thats a HUGE number of people who are walking around with sexual infections/diseases while being on psych meds.. ****..
 

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Screw RSD and all the other PUA scammers. I used to watch and read so much PUA and Red Pill Content until the last few months when I finally woke up. That stuff brain washed me for years. Its all business and about profits. They just want you to buy there product, coaching, etc. They aren't here to help you, they are here to make money. Most of that stuff you don't even need once you learn the important aspects of game. Its just the same stuff told over and over but in different ways. The more content you watch/read, the more you get in your head and become a robot. Since I figured this out, I have become more free flowing when texting women and stopped over thinking what I say and do.

The best thing you can do is learn the important aspects of game and keep improving your life. Work on your purpose (career) and just try to be more natural when it comes to women.
 

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Screw RSD and all the other PUA scammers. I used to watch and read so much PUA and Red Pill Content until the last few months when I finally woke up. That stuff brain washed me for years. Its all business and about profits
I guess you could say you took a Red Pill to wake up from the Red Pill lol.
 

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Mystery is a dork who thought he had to do "game" to get girls. Not knowing that his height and long hair alone made him a great asset to women looking for someone to sleep with. The fact is, he had the personality of a weirdo so he had to create his own schemes to try to get laid. He had to convince himself of these ideas and concepts he learned from some douchebags before him. You really can't teach game because what works for some doesn't work for others.. However, the type of stuff Mystery laid out made it more of a universal science. He didn't originate all the ideas, but he took skinny short bald men like Style and taught them how to get laid . Guys who knew nothing about women basically.
Which is why you pay respect to the OGs of the past. Today, its common sense. Instead of infield and receipts, we got youtube channels essentially parroting the same **** and married. The universal science is universal because someone actually went out and did the work. Not ranted and went on a tangent about hypergamy.

and as far as all the other stuff you said:
Monogamy is still possible of course..
Not getting divorce raped is possible but what sort of fool is going to play that game?
APPARENTLY, most guys.

Male ego is retarded. Foolishness in the form of thinking one is above the process. Not included in the fallout until, whoops obliterated in divorce court.

I mean to think it's not is really farfetched. But, to address the problems you mentioned, It's because a lot of American society is filth man. Some places Down South still have some good values.. like old Christian conservative values. I mean, depends on the people too.. if you see Muslim communities, they don't have these same issues either. STDS almost don't exist in Muslim communities. Neither does alcoholism or gambling. Divorce rates are super low as well. Yet the religion get so much hate because the propaganda war machine. Either way, yes there are still great values in America as well.. Its hard to see them when your'e focused on the wrong things.. However, the fact that 1 in 4 adults has an STD/STI is ****ing alarming. The fact that 1 in 5 people is on psychiatric meds.. ****ing crazy. I mean we're talking a country of 200 million people.. thats a HUGE number of people who are walking around with sexual infections/diseases while being on psych meds.. ****..
Muslim countries don't have same issues because stoning and putting your head on a stick keeps order. Terrible example.

The UK Muslim population has far less divorce rape than non Muslim areas. Guess what? The Asian community does well too. Saying its possible not to get divorce raped so men should return to the plantation. Its cuckoldry.

A ton of digital footprints are going to expose said cucking. A lot of guys pushing trad are delusional. They wait for once a month missionary sex meanwhile her nudes and vids are on cyberspace getting eiffel towered on the regular in her best days.


The ideal is the problem. Modern women are unmarriageable. Men too. Far too many soy boys and low Testosterone.
 

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RSD and PUA stuff is fine for dudes that wants to go to clubs and bang as many women as he can. It's all surface level stuff... and it does work. Dress well and approach and keep trying and you'll have success. This is fine for dudes in their early 20s, hitting on chicks in their early 20s. But you really don't need to pay anyone to teach you to do this.
 

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RSD and PUA stuff is fine for dudes that wants to go to clubs and bang as many women as he can. It's all surface level stuff... and it does work. Dress well and approach and keep trying and you'll have success. This is fine for dudes in their early 20s, hitting on chicks in their early 20s. But you really don't need to pay anyone to teach you to do this.
There are PUAs out there who have systems for maximizing results on swipe apps and Insta. There were more issues developing with night game prior to the pandemic. Night game isn't happening much now with the Rona.
 

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Which is why you pay respect to the OGs of the past. Today, its common sense. Instead of infield and receipts, we got youtube channels essentially parroting the same **** and married. The universal science is universal because someone actually went out and did the work. Not ranted and went on a tangent about hypergamy.



Not getting divorce raped is possible but what sort of fool is going to play that game?
APPARENTLY, most guys.

Male ego is retarded. Foolishness in the form of thinking one is above the process. Not included in the fallout until, whoops obliterated in divorce court.



Muslim countries don't have same issues because stoning and putting your head on a stick keeps order. Terrible example.

The UK Muslim population has far less divorce rape than non Muslim areas. Guess what? The Asian community does well too. Saying its possible not to get divorce raped so men should return to the plantation. Its cuckoldry.

A ton of digital footprints are going to expose said cucking. A lot of guys pushing trad are delusional. They wait for once a month missionary sex meanwhile her nudes and vids are on cyberspace getting eiffel towered on the regular in her best days.


The ideal is the problem. Modern women are unmarriageable. Men too. Far too many soy boys and low Testosterone.
Yeah no. I thought you were at least a civil person to discuss this with.. Shoulda known by your scorned mindset it wasn't wroth talking to you.. You seem to have an idea that all women just hurt men or something and people are all savages. Plus, There are like 40 muslim countries out there.. what you said was completely ignorant. I can tell you're not very traveled or cultured. I don't even know waht the hell divorce rape is man. You sound really scrned.. its like your mind is afraid of being cucked because you lack self esteem whenit comes to women or something, and you're projecting that outward thinkign society is like your little weird projection

Pce bro, talk to someone else. I can't deal with scorned losers or ignorance. Your view of the world is not gonna help you bud. Learn to change your perspective or forever be doomed by it.
 

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RSD and PUA stuff is fine for dudes that wants to go to clubs and bang as many women as he can. It's all surface level stuff... and it does work. Dress well and approach and keep trying and you'll have success. This is fine for dudes in their early 20s, hitting on chicks in their early 20s. But you really don't need to pay anyone to teach you to do this.
Agreed. +1

I find it funny how much shills are in the rp yet very quick to call out rsd or Mystery despite no infield or receipts.

The biggest thing is that, lots of time, learn game, abundance of approach = pulling. I5s a huge time waste to blow up girls egos and very little in return. Say, a fella pick up 10 girls on 100 approaches. Pulls 1. Wtf kind of ROI is that? I have gone home on far less some nights and did far more others with less than spectacular results. Real talk. But wtf is the alternative? Tinder catfish? A fat wife? Single moms? Pickup is black Pilling. See how savage and ruthless the game truly is. Its amazing to actually live at your edge. To shoot. And be THAT GUY. The lad who goes for it.

I admire fellas like Troy Francis other fellas who had longevity in the game. Pulls far younger girls. At 30, it does begin to look at the least bit out of place. I look younger than my age but the reality is not lost on me.

I am curious about the hollowed out husk of a man that let's the status quo dictate. The alternative is not pretty. By metrics, i am a strike out king but that is the game and cold approach pickup. I have flashes of brilliance and superb nights out. The ROI is questionable at best and disliking women can be a side effect of the lifestyle of crushing *****. Seeing female nature and hypergamy untethered.
 

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Yeah no. I thought you were at least a civil person to discuss this with.. Shoulda known by your scorned mindset it wasn't wroth talking to you.. You seem to have an idea that all women just hurt men or something and people are all savages. Plus, There are like 40 muslim countries out there.. what you said was completely ignorant. I can tell you're not very traveled or cultured. I don't even know waht the hell divorce rape is man. You sound really scrned.. its like your mind is afraid of being cucked because you lack self esteem whenit comes to women or something, and you're projecting that outward thinkign society is like your little weird projection

Pce bro, talk to someone else. I can't deal with scorned losers or ignorance. Your view of the world is not gonna help you bud. Learn to change your perspective or forever be doomed by it.
Sound mad little. How about a smile?



I love a thread about pickup and someone who doesn't approach and had never seen a vagina before wants to add in their two cents. Insert rhetoric not all waman.

Scream misogyny. Gotta love captain phaggotry. Thanks for coming sparky.

You wut m8?
 
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