"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I Propose a boycott

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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But that's what I mean: What use is it having 1000 orbiters if you're not attracted to any of them?
According to PUA Bro Theory, women end up with one of these guys anyway, so maybe you should ask the woman what use they are? PUAs will tell you that there is no attraction, because they want to believe that women are only attracted to the players (like them). They want to tell you they are not attracted to orbiters to feed their fantasy that other males are no threat to them. In this PUA fantasy world, the women will never get their "alpha male" anyway, because the alpha will never commit. But the PUA wants to think that all the girls they've moved on from will spend the rest of their days pining for them, so it's an ego thing IMO.
 

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NO hoe is loyal come on dude...
You know how the free market works right? COMPETITION. When American auto makers were producing sh*t quality cars.. the Japanese came in and forced them to step up their game.

When you just accept sh*t there is no incentive for people to improve. Have standards!
 

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You know how the free market works right? COMPETITION. When American auto makers were producing sh*t quality cars.. the Japanese came in and forced them to step up their game.

When you just accept sh*t there is no incentive for people to improve. Have standards!
I don't accept sh!t from a woman EVER...but when you have been with 250 women like I have in my life many of them HB8- HB10'S (I have been with doctors and lawyers who were HB8's and Above) you realize that ALL women cheat and they ALL have no morals and are sleazy.(your young at 32..and may not have realized this yet..so I will cut you some slack):) EVERY woman is a 1995 Yugo...the only difference is how you drive it...
 

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I don't accept sh!t from a woman EVER...but when you have been with 250 women like I have in my life many of them HB8- HB10'S (I have been with doctors and lawyers who were HB8's and Above) you realize that ALL women cheat and they ALL have no morals and are sleazy.(your young at 32..and may not have realized this yet..so I will cut you some slack):) EVERY woman is a 1995 Yugo...the only difference is how you drive it...
The only unequivocal evidence that not ALL women cheat is I don't cheat.

If I can do it--despite a ridiculous sex drive with myriad options--there are women, too, who hold to higher ideals. Once we start succumbing to ALL or NONE arguments, we are subscribing to an irrational thought process. This is not to be confused with blindly investing into a woman's faithfulness but rather understanding a woman's proclivity to cheat is based upon her upbringing, surroundings, belief system, and need--and not unequivocal based on her gender.

I was the one to coin in any relationship, keep one foot in the door and the other out. However, we cannot invest into vast generalizations to develop fallacious thinking and the ensuing wanton prescription (in the context of exclusivity).
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I don't accept sh!t from a woman EVER...but when you have been with 250 women like I have in my life many of them HB8- HB10'S (I have been with doctors and lawyers who were HB8's and Above) you realize that ALL women cheat and they ALL have no morals and are sleazy.(your young at 32..and may not have realized this yet..so I will cut you some slack):) EVERY woman is a 1995 Yugo...the only difference is how you drive it...
Every time I think I've swallowed every red pill in the bottle someone hands me another one...
 

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The only unequivocal evidence that not ALL women cheat is I don't cheat.

If I can do it--despite a ridiculous sex drive with myriad options--there are women, too, who hold to higher ideals. Once we start succumbing to ALL or NONE arguments, we are subscribing to an irrational thought process. This is not to be confused with blindly investing into a woman's faithfulness but rather understanding a woman's proclivity to cheat is based upon her upbringing, surroundings, belief system, and need--and not unequivocal based on her gender.

I was the one to coin in any relationship, keep one foot in the door and the other out. However, we cannot invest into vast generalizations to develop fallacious thinking and the ensuing wanton prescription (in the context of exclusivity).
How is Disneyland this time of year ?;)
 

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Nice regurgitated ad nauseam pathos. No logic.
I used to be like you...holding on to any hope of a unicorn,but as you gain real world experience with women and look at the situation honestly you quickly realize it's a pipe dream,the "viel" is only lifted through being with hundreds of women to realize the unicorn is just that a unicorn..
 

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I used to be like you...holding on to any hope of a unicorn,but as you gain real world experience with women and look at the situation honestly you quickly realize it's a pipe dream,the "viel" is only lifted through being with hundreds of women to realize the unicorn is just that a unicorn..
Hundreds? Did that in my 30s. Once you get closer to 1000, come talk to me.

As for unicorns: I assume you mean loyal women. The majority of my ex's were loyal. Extrapolation my friend. Your majority experience and poor choices of women does not equate to "ALL." Red pill is about recognizing the truth. Within this context, you are about as blue pill as it gets. Though, I will qualify and agree to the following:

Most women who are 8s and above have more opportunities to cheat and accordingly under the right circumstance will.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hundreds? Did that in my 30s. Once you get closer to 1000, come talk to me.

As for unicorns: I assume you mean loyal women. The majority of my ex's were loyal. Extrapolation my friend. Your majority experience and poor choices of women does not equate to "ALL." Red pill is about recognizing the truth. Within this context, you are about as blue pill as it gets. Though, I will qualify and agree to the following:

Most women who are 8s and above have more opportunities to cheat and accordingly under the right circumstance will.
My poor choices of women?..... lool... why do you have 1000 ex's ?? seems to me like you can't keep a woman interested in you for very long...;)
 

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My poor choices of women?..... lool... why do you have 1000 ex's ?? seems to me like you can't keep a woman interested in you for very long...;)
If this is your logic, I can understand how you came up with your first "ALL" fallacy.
 

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If this is your logic, I can understand how you came up with your first "ALL" fallacy.
OK Guru...agree to disagree...let me know when you find your unicorn dancing on a rainbow...(vomit)
 

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Here's another one - perhaps there is no red-pill reality... perhaps we make our own.
There is definitely a "reality" as in hard cold facts that can be proven.

Red pill is supposed to strip away the emotions and just focus on the facts. I can't say everyone who claims to be red pill does this. But its definitely a FACT that I have yet to date a woman who is marriage material. At least by my standards. And I'm a very eligible bachelor according to pop culture standards.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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There is definitely a "reality" as in hard cold facts that can be proven.

Red pill is supposed to strip away the emotions and just focus on the facts. I can't say everyone who claims to be red pill does this. But its definitely a FACT that I have yet to date a woman who is marriage material. At least by my standards. And I'm a very eligible bachelor according to pop culture standards.
Yes, I think bourgeois blue pill 'culture' [ideology] reads its own mediocre values into reality, and then, hello, it turns out to be something a little more sinister by those standards.

I guess we are habituated today to think of reality in terms of Nature/ Biology, but there are plenty of other cultures who have seen reality, in those terms, as irrelevant - they sought to overcome reality by some ideal they had in mind. I love the Greeks for this, and it is something that Nietzsche picked up again in his half mad way. Instead of a biological lowering to the common denominator [horizontal equality].... there is conceived a vertical intelligible hierarchy. Free self-determined men instinctively know this, no matter the reigning ideology.
 
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