Ugh.. for some reason i seem to take the CnF a little too far and this one chick was going along with it until she just said i pissed her off and i didnt feel like taking to her the rest of the day. Shes pretty hot by the way, what could i do in this situation? But my more important question is how can i keep a great convo going without overdoing the CnF
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I piss girls off lol
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
ummm and what did you say?
Well you can always look at their body language and see how they react to your C&F. If they are laughing their heads off, then you are doing the right thing. But if they are red in the face and actually pissed then tone it down.
It also depends if shes laughing/smiling when she says it or if she has a serioius face and everything.
It also depends if shes laughing/smiling when she says it or if she has a serioius face and everything.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Omg that would have been perfect lol, Ive also been wanted to get her number but i didnt see her over the summer, how could i do this, no were not gonna go out for coffee, thats all i hear and its not helpful to me, i dont take 15 year old girls out to coffee...i just wanna chat with her, how can i get her # without making up some BS...
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War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
The most common mistake men make when they're doing C&F is that they milk it. It's their main arsenal in their seduction, so they often over do it. You should just pull a C&F every now and then. I've realized when I started doing this that the material I was reading mainly applied to super hot pornstar like models you see in the clubs. Most of us are in high school, so we're mainly hitting on high school chicks. The women that those books are describing are the ones that usually get hit on 5 times a day and are super hot. High school girls, even if they are super hot, haven't really reached that stage.
After she gets pissed off say this loud enough for her to hear it
"ya, she digs me"
you have to say it sarcastically though so she knows your having fun.
or
"i know you just want to kiss me"
it works 2 ways in that youre twisting the situation around to bust on her
and
she just might say yea i do or she might answer the "i have a bf" question you didnt want to ask
"ya, she digs me"
you have to say it sarcastically though so she knows your having fun.
or
"i know you just want to kiss me"
it works 2 ways in that youre twisting the situation around to bust on her
and
she just might say yea i do or she might answer the "i have a bf" question you didnt want to ask
Whn using CnF dont do it to try and pick her up, or anything besides makeing the two of you have fun. Its weird no matter how hard you try you cant hide that you are trying to pick her up if you are. I go in no giving two fvcks if she wants my **** or not, or whether im going to give it to her, at least untill it comes to that. You will flow alot better if you arent trying, at all, and if you dont care. And to avoid making the girl angry with your CnF, dont rely on that as your only tool, and always say it with a smirk that shows that ur only teasing.
So go out and have fun, dont worry about getting laid, hooking up, or anything like that just forget it all and b natural and have flow and they will come to you.
BTW does anyone else think its hott when girls get angry?
So go out and have fun, dont worry about getting laid, hooking up, or anything like that just forget it all and b natural and have flow and they will come to you.
BTW does anyone else think its hott when girls get angry?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
so you're just practicing, and you think shes pretty hot 
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im actually gaming 2 girls atm and I continuously piss them off, they still dig me, its nothing bad IMO as long and youre making her emotional bucket swing