"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Apprentice DJ

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Hey guys,
Apprentice DJ here.... you can see a post i made a few days ago about the chick not letting me touch her... its called "she won't let me touch her"
its basically me using kino on her but she always drew a line about not letting me give her a massage

anyways...during some time spent together, i said i wanted to get to know her and stuff.... at first she was hard to break, not very open and stuff so we kept on talking about the fact that she had a cold attitude about not letting me massage her and stuff...conversation went on for a few minutes about how or why she was like this so i used the intuitive technique on the website (basically saying that i can see from her actions that she is like this because she's afraid to get hurt or that she's afraid to hurt others by being too close or open to them) then out of nowhere:

she opens herself (intellectually of course) she outpoors all of her bfs and heartbreaks to me.... i mean in that 20 minutes i think i heard all of her relationship problems...EVER.

now.... how should i handle this? is this a good sign cus she feels comfortable and intimate with me or... is it the deadly im so in the friends zone that even Barney doesnt arrive to my ankles?

advice please!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Until you kiss her all this stuff means nothing.
 

Apprentice DJ

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I need advice, not someone stating me the obvious.

How should i play this now?
 

Marlimus

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As far as she is concerned, you do not have a penis. Move on.
 

00Kevin

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I don't kiss a girl until she grabs my ****.

That is why I have a girl friend that is already in love with me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Great Stuff 00Kevin... again!

but how did you get to that point?
lol
 

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I think you need to stop analyzing, take her out on the most 'datish' date you can, and kiss her. If she denies your advances, get rid of her. No questions, no analyzing, no stipulations, just cut her off.

It's not definitely a bad sign that she's opening up to you, you just have to let her know that you want to be with her on a romantic level and not on a Dr. Phil level.
 

jigga23

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dude girls like this are goin to give you a run for your money. if shes been hurt recently then she probalby has a one track mind. dont put up with her bs. she probably has low self esteem. if you want her as a gf then you need to show her that your diffent dont bone immediatley cause as soon as she bones some dude shell feel all used and hurt so be there for her but not too much. but the main thing is deny her at first of doing anythign with you. then open up and do whatever that should be sufficient
 
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