Tha Realnezz
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^Why do you assume you have to chase them?And what do you define as "chasing"?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I never chase women.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
ethnomethodologist
Master Don Juan
For me, I assume I have to chase because it is the proactive thing to do. Without chasing, or moving, I would get nowhere. The american dream is built around chasing. Most chase their own tails, but that is beside the point.Originally posted by Tha Realnezz
^Why do you assume you have to chase them?And what do you define as "chasing"?
I define chasing as seeing and seducing. I see far more women out there than I could handle if they introduced themselves to me. So I play my role as a hunter and actively experience the world instead of letting the world confront me and do the introducing.
The world responds to my advances.
Tha Realnezz
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You don't want rejection and you damn sure don't want girls who put out then go crazy within a week ...or do you?
That's why the system i have been using is the best way to approach things.
Selective approaches>>Shotgunning.
It filters out the bs'ers and the non-intersted saving you a whole lot of time and giving you a nice,steady rotation of mostly hassle-free women.
The trick is to focus on the look.
That's why the system i have been using is the best way to approach things.
Selective approaches>>Shotgunning.
It filters out the bs'ers and the non-intersted saving you a whole lot of time and giving you a nice,steady rotation of mostly hassle-free women.
The trick is to focus on the look.
Ol'BlueEyes
Senior Don Juan
Up to this point I've never attracted women (at least none I would like to attract). What other choice do I have but to approach as many women as possible? It's not like there's a parade of available HB's trouping around wherever I go.Why do you assume you have to chase them?And what do you define as "chasing"?
Once I learn how to demonstate VALUE, then I don't think approaching will be a problem. Right now I don't have that down.
Egoist
Master Don Juan
its just a different level of the "chase"
you are a fvcking man, a hunter. You hunt, you chase.
but setting up a good trap and waiting for the prey to fall in is still hunting.
you are a fvcking man, a hunter. You hunt, you chase.
but setting up a good trap and waiting for the prey to fall in is still hunting.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
ethnomethodologist
Master Don Juan
No rejection? Man, do the bootcamp. Rejection is a good thing, I see where your philosophy comes into play, but you can attain the same degree of success when you force rejection.Originally posted by Tha Realnezz
You don't want rejection and you damn sure don't want girls who put out then go crazy within a week ...or do you?
After a while following DJ clues you can get some girls to go crazy for you, because they can tell you just want them to reject you... That's something that has to be taught. Deep down it's hard to teach, on the surface even to me my words mangle the possibilities.
Crazy girls are amazing too, I guess some people just aren't prepared to taste the fruits of life...
Mr_knowit_all
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Originally posted by Egoist
its just a different level of the "chase"
you are a fvcking man, a hunter. You hunt, you chase.
but setting up a good trap and waiting for the prey to fall in is still hunting.
You're my favorite cologne
Imagine that you could get all girls that you want. That is what most of us guys dream about. You cant achieve this by approaching just the girls that are attracted to you before your approach.
Although I don't agree with not chasing women I tend to go just for girls that show interest. You cant call this a seduction it's more like not scaring the girl of because she already likes you and you know that.
If you want to be great then you should be able to attract all girls regardless if they like you or not in the initial phase.
You just have to approach if you want to improve your game or if you look bad and girls don't have interest in your looks.
Although I don't agree with not chasing women I tend to go just for girls that show interest. You cant call this a seduction it's more like not scaring the girl of because she already likes you and you know that.
If you want to be great then you should be able to attract all girls regardless if they like you or not in the initial phase.
You just have to approach if you want to improve your game or if you look bad and girls don't have interest in your looks.
satyriasis
Don Juan
i agree with what he is saying. only thing i disagree with is solely relying on b.l. from women.
if your attracted to her, go make the approach. rejection is guaranteed.
if your attracted to her, go make the approach. rejection is guaranteed.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Tha Realnezz
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Having balls to approach hot women doesn't prove a damn thing.
Those guys on Jackass and wildboys take greate physical risks each and every episode,right?But does that make them athletes?
Hell no.
So why would you assume that approaching (and consequently getting rejected) alot of women makes you a better dj than therest?
It's the style of approach,the quality of the women, the success rate that makes you a player not the amount.
Quality>Quantity.
The goal is not to get rejected,guys.Common sense.
Those guys on Jackass and wildboys take greate physical risks each and every episode,right?But does that make them athletes?
Hell no.
So why would you assume that approaching (and consequently getting rejected) alot of women makes you a better dj than therest?
It's the style of approach,the quality of the women, the success rate that makes you a player not the amount.
Quality>Quantity.
The goal is not to get rejected,guys.Common sense.
Tha Realnezz
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Originally posted by Egoist
its just a different level of the "chase"
you are a fvcking man, a hunter. You hunt, you chase.
but setting up a good trap and waiting for the prey to fall in is still hunting.
It's not the same thing.Screw the analogy.
Approaching random women and praying to god you don't say somnething stupid as you run game isn't quite the same as approaching women that arleady steamy or that have even already approached you.
Nowhere near the same thing.
Egoist
Master Don Juan
Originally posted by Mr_knowit_all
You're my favorite cologne
:cheer:
Egoist
Master Don Juan
wrong, but ok.Originally posted by Tha Realnezz
It's not the same thing.Screw the analogy.
Approaching random women and praying to god you don't say somnething stupid as you run game isn't quite the same as approaching women that arleady steamy or that have even already approached you.
Nowhere near the same thing.
you are significantly limiting yourself.
Tha Realnezz
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^How?
If you know how to interpret signals then you would know that i'm not limiting myself at all.
Difference here is attraction..I get plenty of signals...I guess by where this thread is going most ss'ers don't?
If you know how to interpret signals then you would know that i'm not limiting myself at all.
Difference here is attraction..I get plenty of signals...I guess by where this thread is going most ss'ers don't?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
satyriasis
Don Juan
i see what your saying, but you really are limiting yourself...this method can still be as affective if you do approach...all your really saying is you don't approach and don't chase...you can approach, create attraction, and still have them chase...i also rely on the way you do it, but am not going to lie to my own testosterone in chicks am attracted to and want to get at.