"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I need to relax

Gammergq

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Guys I am to stiff and not chilled out in conversations. I try not to but everytime I talk to a women I get in a try hard mode where I become tounge tied and I do not enjoy the interaction how could I change things?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Stop being intimidated by women for starters.

Start meditating, that is a sure fire way to reduce mental/physical tension.
 

true romance

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Pratice to talk to women everywhere you go

grocery, cashier, coffee house..etc

engage in any conversation
 

WC2

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Why do you care what women think of you? Let alone women that you may never see again. Notice that the men who pickup women are the ones who care about the women the least.
 

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Rhoto said:
Stop being intimidated by women for starters.

Start meditating, that is a sure fire way to reduce mental/physical tension.
Meditating will do wonders for you, you should look into it. I've gotten past so many mental blocks over the last few years its not even a joke.

Also I agree with everyone else here, honer and respect a women when she's possibly might be right one for you and show that you can do that, but until those days come you need to just think of it as conversation and thats all.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ItsOnNow

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"Why do you care what women think of you? Let alone women that you may never see again. Notice that the men who pickup women are the ones who care about the women the least."

But why? The whole "bad boy" thing, what about someone who is honest,kind and caring? Do they like that? Or is it "nice guys" finish last?
 

Telos

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Can we please stop rehashing topics that could easily be solved by taking a read through the bible? No, women do not like over-emotional doormats. No you will not woo a woman into loving you by listening to her feelings. "Nice guys" don't always finish last as long as they act on their sexual appetites and don't turn into a complete pedestal chasing stooge. This is elementary stuff dude. You have 375 posts and you're still oblivious to fundamentals.
 

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true romance said:
Pratice to talk to women everywhere you go

grocery, cashier, coffee house..etc

engage in any conversation
Like Tag Team said: "woop, there it is."

It'll feel awkward at first, but so did riding a bicycle. The key to becoming a master conversationalist is to converse every chance you get. Practice makes perfect. Chicks, dudes, old people, young people, fat, skinny, ugly, hot - talk to them all, all the time.
 

K2000kidd

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get them off the pedastal man
Go into an interaction as if
You're the one THEY are trying to impress
not the other way around
 

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Quick story...

I remember the time a wise old "ladies man" taught me this lesson.

He said:

Relaxation is actually pretty easy in groups... because your muscles have a rather binary switch... they're either tensed (to some degree) or they're relaxed.

The question is: which muscles should you relax, and which not? I think you'll be able to figure this out for yourself. (Obviously, you want to keep your legs and spine held up straight) For some reason, I find it really beneficial to relax my shoulders and face in set.

But I find there's a deeper way to look at this topic, and this comes directly from being in-field for 100s (maybe 1000s) of hours every year.

Relaxation is not the same as comfort.

Naturals are COMFORTABLE with girls... but not always relaxed.

Being comfortable in set, to me, means three things:

1. Slowing down/shutting off ALL internal rep systems (the pictures and movies and sounds in your mind)

2. Having a good feeling spinning through your body when you're talking to women and

3. Having an OUTWARD focus, on the girl in front of you. (All while your muscles are relaxed and you're feeling good)

The point you begin to take control of your feelings (which I can tell you're looking to learn), is the point something inside clicks and you know your bed will be warm for the rest of your life.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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