"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I need some serious conversationalist tips..

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Adakkon

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I just can't break out of my funk when it comes to holding conversations.

When I was younger I decided if I didn't have anything worthwhile to say I might as well not say anything at all, and it has kind of turned into an unconscious habit I can't get out of.

This isn't even a just with women thing. I don't have any nervousness or fear around them anymore and I can keep up the same level of discussion as I can with my friends, it's just that this isn't much at all.

I've tried looking for clues to keep the conversation going but I always miss them. I can think back now and see maybe 20 hints I could have used to keep things flowing throughout different conversations I've had today but when I was there they just flew over my head.

I'm working on making a move on a HB in a physics class of mine that is interested. (I think I caught her snapping glances at me a few times and we have had a bit of eye contact, she could just be wondering if I'm eyeing her or something but I prefer to think positive :D )

I've had kind of a group conversation with her involved and while it went okay I feel like I could do way better. I'm working up to trying to approach her 1 on 1 and make a move (First woman I'm going after since coming here, so I'm taking baby steps) but I'm worried the conversation will go something like:

Me: Hey, I see you are in a few of my classes.
Her: Yeah
Me: Thats nice.
Her:......
Me:...........
Her:.............
Me:...............
Her: *walks away*
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Alphathree

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You WILL screw this up, and I'm sorry if that hurts your inner game at the moment, but I think it'll help in the long run.

Knowing the above, you can be less attached to the OUTCOME, which is not going to be in your favor in THIS PARTICULAR instance.

Stop having 'conversations' with people and start communicating with them. Communication is done with words, voice tone, body language, etc.

See, if you try to create this facade of "I'm _TRYING_ to have a conversation with you", it's over.

Be HONEST. If there's a flower in her hair, ask her if she knows she's got a garden growing "up there" (point).

If she does something silly, _IN A PLAYFUL MANNER_, make fun of her.

DO NOT memorize what I'm writing here. Find an honest observation of your own.

I recommend Radical Honesty by Brad Blanton. It'll help you a lot with this.

Consider this: as you read what I'm writing right now, do you feel that I'm 'hiding' anything from you? Do you think I have some alternate purpose that I'm not talking about?

No. My thoughts are flowing directly without much regard for what you THINK of them, and I know you appreciate this, as does everyone.

How about now:

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Hi. How are you? So, are you new to these boards? That's nice. Well it sounds like you're doing well so far.
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That's vacuous ****. There's nothing there.

Learn to communicate. Stop having conversations. If you have only one thing to say, say that, and then leave. NEVER stick around. It's needy.
 
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