"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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kipper034

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I see your point sandhawk and Kingsam. And I thought about it, reading other threads, and you guys were right. I was definately over analyzing everything, which is a first step to failure, instead of going with the flow and taking it for what it is. I definately needed some of your "harsh" comments.

So thanks for a reality check and I am just going to sit back and what happens.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think you misunderstood the concept behind these forums. We're not your regular dating advice, we're solely here to learn people to be successful with women in general, not how to hit on that specific girl you oh so gloriously placed on a pedestal and god knows how much want to make yours and marry her and spread your pathetic genes with.

The goal behind these forums is to get laid loads and learn to be be a Don Juan, a person whom all women adore, not just one.

No, you're not spoiling her, you're just doing what every other guy around you does: Kiss her ass in the hope she eventually loves you. And you cannot stop doing that all the sudden, now would you? So, depending on what you want: this particular girl or girls in general, we cannot help or we can help you.
 

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Hey sandhawk, you didn't have to sound so harsh... You are from Amsterdam? Great, that's one of my favorites cities in Europe as I studied in Nederland for 6 months.

I do see your point. The reason why I posted is that because I do have tendency to go both extremes, to jerk and nice guy. I had two potential relationship destroyed because of that and now I am just trying to find the right balance for betterment. I want to avoid the trap of falling into same hole; I am hoping I am not spoiling her too much. Buying flowers on those days, well, it a norm here. I see others posted their problems as well and those ones who need advice. Similar to others all I am asking is for advice/guidance perhaps not just with her but for the future.
 

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Then read the DJ bible, which can be found here: http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

Don't ask advice for this girl in particular, but ask on how to improve yourself. Not to us, but also to yourself. And instead of being a weakling that bends to her(or any girl in general) demands, lay down your own rules and stick to them.
 

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sandhawk was NOT being harsh......he was being truthful and honest- which to some people (like you?) may hurt
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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