"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonJuanNtraining

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Whats up everyone if you can help it would be great. Ok heres my problem I'm

getting up there in age. I never had a girlfriend. I have bad approach anxiety

and freeze when I see a girl I want to say something to. I don't know what to

say when I have tried to approach it only goes as far as hi or whats your name

and they never seem interested. I soon either start stuttering or go blank. I

haven't been laid in awhile and the last time was with a chick i probably would

not show to anyone. She wasn't hideous but she wasn't great either. I don't

think I look bad or anything. I just worry to much I guess. I really want to

pull this don juan thing off I am ready for a change I need one. What should I

do. I want to be able to talk to all types of women and not care about rejection
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Greasy Pig

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Read the sticky threads at the top of the forum page. It's all solid gold.
 

Love's Orphan

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Greetings, change your point of view. You dont need a lady; a lady needs you.
 

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My one and only tip is baby steps dude. You're not going to be a DJ over night but everyday, work on doing something that gets you out of your comfort zone.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Chamber36

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I advise you to do lots of reading and lots of clubbing.
 

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aproach and get rejected, its the only way you will learn.
 

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Go to a strip bar and plan to spend $1000 and you'll be a new man.
 

DonJuanNtraining

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I like that I think I have to remember that when Im out. It just seems when Im out i will get quick glances but I normally end up standing along the wall trying to look cool, which I probably don't
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DonJuanNtraining

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Ive been reading today trying to find stuff to build me up to approach and I want to go to a club tonight.
 

Lord Shinra

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Best advice I can give you.

Dont listen to other peoples advice, especially if it sounds rehashed from whatever bs you have been doing and probably brought you here.

Go out and do your own thing, and make your own damn destiny. Dont ever listen to the people who bs about "Friends introduce you to girls" and "You wont find it if youre looking for it" Both those are loads of crap and counterproductive.

Forge your own path. And dont forget your past and why you're here.
 

FairShake

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Lord Shinra said:
"Friends introduce you to girls"
Actually I think that's outstanding advice. I have banged most of my female friends' friends. Guess you could say that's my path.

But the forge your own path is probably the truest thing anyone could've said. Try, fail, try, fail, try, fail, succeed once in awhile.
 

DonJuanNtraining

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I here what you are saying and I am going to try. And Im working on a better destiny because the one I am living now I am not that proud of.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Lord Shinra

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FairShake said:
Actually I think that's outstanding advice. I have banged most of my female friends' friends. Guess you could say that's my path.
Its outstanding advice.. if theres other variables that are going your way.
My crew (as in the people I sarge with) are my closest friends, and we all bring each other in on dates where the girl brings her friends. So in that case, yes, the above is sound.

Now, on the otherhand, my friends (the ones I dont sarge with) never seem to bring me around any other girls. I had a very close friend, who I have since parted ways with, who went on a double by himself, just because he didnt want to bring me in for whatever reason he had. He ended up going home by himself as well, so it was the same outcome, Regardless of me going on a tangent, its only sound advice if your friends want to introduce you around. Trust me, any same sex friends who think you're really good at this or are AFCs themselves, dont want to make more competition for themselves.

So what are you supposed to do then, wait around for your friends, or just go out and build your own harem? My path is more hands on, but I never say close any doors.
 

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Go to the gym and start working out if you aren't already. Work your arms, chest and shoulders it will raise your self esteem and girls are attracted to a developed upper body vs flat shoulders, no muscle mass at all.
Get little bit of tan. People with some tan are twice as attractive vs people who are pale. Tan makes you look skinnier, healthier and more attractive. This is a fact.
Third, get a hobby you enjoy. If you like hiking then join a team and meet new people that way. Expand your friend circle get out of the house as much as you can. 70% of life success is just showing up.
Start of as friends with girls so you can get comfortable. Worst that can happen is you will remain as friends. Best thing that can happen is that you will meet more girls that way and something eventually could happen. Your mojo will go up for sure.
That was actually how I got my first girlfriend few years back. I met a girl that had a boyfriend and we became friends. I was not attracted to her so I could be myself and un-shy myself because I was really shy. Soon after she said she had a girl for me to meet.. and I dated few of her girlfriends and it was a huge breakthrough in my dating life.
 

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Lord Shinra said:
Trust me, any same sex friends who think you're really good at this or are AFCs themselves, dont want to make more competition for themselves.
Now that's the truth.

If a friend has gotten me a girl, SHE was doing it because she trusts me to treat her friend right. Guys are often cool to my face, but rarely hit me up to come to parties, unless they have a girlfriend or have very high self-esteem.
 

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yeah I've definitely been working on the self image but i often find myself in the house a lot. I really need to get out more and increase my circle thanks for the advice I will be working on it
 

DonJuanNtraining

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yeah I've definitely been working on the self image but i often find myself in the house a lot. I really need to get out more and increase my circle thanks for the advice I will be working on it
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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