I met that 39 year old nurse today at work. Interesting how we met. Didn't look the same though(OLD)

[corrector]

What steps are you taking to improve your life?

 

[biggoal]

You should improve yourself. Build and the women will come.

Down here in FL there is a lot of Betabuxxing and sugar daddy stuff going on. That HB8 I went on a couple dates with back in early Sept she's dating a guy who looks like a beta. Remember sent the big thing of flowers to her classroom after a first date and then less than 3 months later pays for a cruise for the two of them.

So he Betabuxxes her with gifts and crap and as a result gets him some right away.

Yet on this forum you guys all say buying women stuff, at least early on, paying for everything, paying for all the meals, etc. makes you lose your frame. Yet these guys throw money at them and it seems to work. Same with the old guys who spoil them.

So your frame is more important than opening your wallet to get some?

 

[corrector]

Down here in FL there is a lot of Betabuxxing and sugar daddy stuff going on. That HB8 I went on a couple dates with back in early Sept she's dating a guy who looks like a beta. Remember sent the big thing of flowers to her classroom after a first date and then less than 3 months later pays for a cruise for the two of them.

So he Betabuxxes her with gifts and crap and as a result gets him some right away.

Yet on this forum you guys all say buying women stuff, at least early on, paying for everything, paying for all the meals, etc. makes you lose your frame. Yet these guys throw money at them and it seems to work. Same with the old guys who spoil them.

So your frame is more important than opening your wallet to get some?

Give your money to charity. See you are just thinking about yourself and women are not getting good vibes until you learn to give. You need to work on your aura. By doing good deeds to others your aura improves and you will attract nicer yonger girls out of the woodwork.

 

[biggoal]

Give your money to charity.

Like there is another thread a guy is making a big deal because his girlfriend wanted him to pay for her Uber Eats order and makes a big fuss about it. Why not just pay it?

 

[corrector]

Like there is another thread a guy is making a big deal because his girlfriend wanted him to pay for her Uber Eats order and makes a big fuss about it. Why not just pay it?

Because tension in a relationship leads to more sex. People who are nice to each other all the time is a boring thing.

 

[RickTheToad]

There was one HB7 grannie who was 43! On facebook dating. She had a baby when she was 16 and another at 18 with the same guy and her kids married really young too and have kids now. Grandma at 43.

Again, when you mean dress like an adult you mean just more modest clothing, not bank busting clothing with big brand logos plastered all over it? Btw I go to their stores. Like I'll go to the Ralph Lauren or Hilfiger stores and they sell the stuff for 50 percent cheaper than what Macy's sells the same shirt for. If they have them on sale and a coupon promo on top of it you can get it dirt cheap. I bought a shirt that goes for about $80 at Macy's for $28 bucks at the Polo Store because it was on sale and I had a coupon. Here in FL they have a lot of those PRemium outlet malls with those stores. Tourist go there and buy tons of stuff because up north they don't have as many outlet malls.

Oh, and what about the watches? I suggested possibly buying a Brietling watch that go for $2500 to $3000 or even a used Rolex to look like big money too. What would a woman think of that? Try and use me for betabuxxing?

No granny can be HB anything.

For style, watch some of the videos here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLjodVTY_kZzd3cQ7D82DhA

If you are going out on a date, collared shirt / polo with dark or black jeans/pants, nice shoes. Simple, yet tight. Believe it or not, Amazon's house brands are pretty good and inexpensive as f uck. An Amazon polo and some black jeans, and some nice Allen Edmonds shoes, and you're looking tight. If you want to push it up a notch, add a black sports jacket. No need to invest in name brands. F uck around with the inexpensive brands first and you can always upgrade to premium brands.

You do not need a watch. The lady should be there for YOU not your material assets..

 

[Xenom0rph]

@biggoal I didn't think it would come to this but desperate times call for desperate measures. I think you should establish a relationship with a local escort of your choosing. Your recent posts seem to suggest that your strategy is now to beta buxx your way into vag. If you are going to do that escorts are better because at least you are guaranteed to get laid. If you want to keep working on yourself while you do this go ahead , but you should start actually using some of the advice on this forum. Last thing is I don't think that you lift, if you don't then you need to start lifting,

I cant speak for anyone else, and I neither encourage nor discourage this route, i can only speak for myself:

........ When i was a young cat in my early 20's my desperation was 10x worse than @biggoal....

....it was so bad that i literally froze up from fear just talking to females...

....so to get over my fear i stated going to strip clubs, MPs, hostess bars to interact with women and yes I got a little bit of action in the VIP....

.... After a while I got over my fear of females and overcame my obsession with dating and chasing women and focused my attention on my academics....

I graduated, got a good job and worked my way up the corp ladder to a comfortable job....

....honestly, if i had wasted my time chasing women or getting married/divorced i would be in a financial and emotional rut like most millennial men....

The thing with pvssy is that once you get 2 ~3 times you'll realize that while it may be good, it aint worth sacrificing time, money and goals....

 

[RickTheToad]

Like there is another thread a guy is making a big deal because his girlfriend wanted him to pay for her Uber Eats order and makes a big fuss about it. Why not just pay it?

Beta and being used for material resources. That is why.

 

[RickTheToad]

I cant speak for anyone else, and I neither encourage nor discourage this route, i can only speak for myself:

........ When i was a young cat in my early 20's my desperation was 10x worse than @biggoal....

No chance.

 

[Xenom0rph]

No chance.

....i am ashamed to admit that my desperation surpassed most guys by leaps and bounds....

...which is why, these days, I tend to be harsh towards guys who exhibit SIMP behavior because it reminds me of how I was and I dont want guys to degrade themselves engaging in the SIMPery that I engaged in.....

 

[MrWood]

I was wearing Hilfiger Jeans and a Ralph Lauren Polo Sport shirt with the big logo on it.

lol. I bet they are fake too.

Anyway it was with one of her older guy friends!

lol. Yet you go on about what he looks like... yet this is the biggest dis a woman can show you

What would you do in this situation next time if she has her guy friend with her a girl from OLD brings along an old fart friend like that?

next time? lol

not bank busting clothing with big brand logos plastered all over it?

I laugh at guys wearing this sh1t... in Europe the only guys that wear this are immigrants trying to look cool (6.5in phones too). Compensating for what isnt in their fake jeans and game. lol

Posters suggest on first meetings for example a basic pair of jeans and a tshirt.

Try a black or white T with a light blazer and tennis shoes. Im 53 and wear jeans and tshirt, never been questioned because I look comfortable and my own style... women love a guy who is himself.

What you dont understand is that women care about a guys personality, how he makes her feel...
not what he looks like or what clothes he wears (and if he makes her pvssy tingle)

 

[biggoal]

No granny can be HB anything.

For style, watch some of the videos here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLjodVTY_kZzd3cQ7D82DhA

If you are going out on a date, collared shirt / polo with dark or black jeans/pants, nice shoes. Simple, yet tight. Believe it or not, Amazon's house brands are pretty good and inexpensive as f uck. An Amazon polo and some black jeans, and some nice Allen Edmonds shoes, and you're looking tight. If you want to push it up a notch, add a black sports jacket. No need to invest in name brands. F uck around with the inexpensive brands first and you can always upgrade to premium brands.

You do not need a watch. The lady should be there for YOU not your material assets..

I always wear collar shirt and jeans on a first date. Actually I did wear black jeans on the last two. Except the Polo shirts were Ralph Lauren. Both had big logos on it, not just a plain polo shirt you'd find at Old Navy or somewhere like that.

Last date I wore a shirt similar to this.

 

[RickTheToad]

Last date I wore a shirt similar to this.

You're f ucking kidding.. Right?

 

[biggoal]

lol. I bet they are fake too.


lol. Yet you go on about what he looks like... yet this is the biggest dis a woman can show you


next time? lol


I laugh at guys wearing this sh1t... in Europe the only guys that wear this are immigrants trying to look cool (6.5in phones too). Compensating for what isnt in their fake jeans and game. lol


Try a black or white T with a light blazer and tennis shoes. Im 53 and wear jeans and tshirt, never been questioned because I look comfortable and my own style... women love a guy who is himself.

What you dont understand is that women care about a guys personality, how he makes her feel...
not what he looks like or what clothes he wears (and if he makes her pvssy tingle)

No, not fake. These are stores owned by Calvin Klein, Hilfiger etc. Corporate owned. They're regular malls, not a fleamarket outlet type.

 

[biggoal]

You're f ucking kidding.. Right?

It wasn't red like that. It was solid color, Dark Blue and had the big horse logo, just didn't have the Polo crest on the other side. Couldn't find the exact shirt on google image search at the moment.

 

[RickTheToad]

It wasn't red like that. It was solid color, Dark Blue and had the big horse logo, just didn't have the Polo crest on the other side. Couldn't find the exact shirt on google image search at the moment.

Dude. Keep it simple. What Woodie said is fine too. Black shirt, maybe a blazer/sport jacket and some jeans. You are in Florida, so you prob. can get away with the all white tennis sneakers, but I still think a good pair of handmade shoes are key. Ladies love shoes. First thing you say when you meet her, hey nice shoes. Guaranteed smile.

Stop with all this name brand flash. It's childish, makes you look like a brand hog and a turn off for most ladies.. Even the grannies you chase. And STOP seeking validation and a relationship. You say you are open to it, but let's see where things go. Quick 10 minute chat for an intro and set the date that weekend, Friday or Saturday. She says no, no problem. You wish her well and suggest to her, if she changes her mind, feel free to reach out and good night.

This is not rocket science. I just feel during the texts and calls, you just elude no confidence, no mystery and an open book; with a sprinkle of naivety; thus, you do not get the p ussy from any of them. Less is more in everything in dating and mating. You'd do yourself (and you member) much better if you actually listen to the advice people are giving to you here.

 

[Focal core]

I heard somewhere about granny dominatrix services.. They are way hotter as they make through whipping your azz and call you bad grandson

 

[RickTheToad]

....i am ashamed to admit that my desperation surpassed most guys by leaps and bounds....

...which is why, these days, I tend to be harsh towards guys who exhibit SIMP behavior because it reminds me of how I was and I dont want guys to degrade themselves engaging in the SIMPery that I engaged in.....

Still don't believe you. In my 38 years on Earth, I've never met a dude like @biggoal. Nothing bad about that... If he listened to us, but he still goes his own way, but expects different results. Sigh...

BGHOW - Biggoal Going His Own Way

 

[biggoal]

Dude. Keep it simple. What Woodie said is fine too. Black shirt, maybe a blazer/sport jacket and some jeans. You are in Florida, so you prob. can get away with the all white tennis sneakers, but I still think a good pair of handmade shoes are key. Ladies love shoes. First thing you say when you meet her, hey nice shoes. Guaranteed smile.

Stop with all this name brand flash. It's childish, makes you look like a brand hog and a turn off for most ladies.. Even the grannies you chase. And STOP seeking validation and a relationship. You say you are open to it, but let's see where things go. Quick 10 minute chat for an intro and set the date that weekend, Friday or Saturday. She says no, no problem. You wish her well and suggest to her, if she changes her mind, feel free to reach out and good night.

This is not rocket science. I just feel during the texts and calls, you just elude no confidence, no mystery and an open book; with a sprinkle of naivety; thus, you do not get the p ussy from any of them. Less is more in everything in dating and mating. You'd do yourself (and you member) much better if you actually listen to the advice people are giving to you here.

The dates I went on this summer most dressed low key since it was hot and humid. That super hot HB 9.5 snob who was athletic dressed in expensive LuLuman gym attire for dinner and wore a Luluman sweater and then had the super super short gym shorts on. When she walked in people were checking her out. I thought that was a bit over the top, especially the shorts like that on a first date. None of them wore fancy shoes.

The main thing with the older women is they tend to be stiffer on dates, especially first dates. They tend to want to talk about their lives more and problems going on rather than fun stuff.

I usually just wear Nike shoes on dates. This chick who's near 50 texted more tonight. Sent me some pics of the boat parade she went to with her girlfriend as well along with the 3 cute pics of her bike ride. Obviously she has some interest in me if she's sending selfies like that. She goes to Church a lot as well.

 

[MrWood]

The reason older women are behaving like that is because they sense how hungry you are, willing to supplicate for even just a wisp of pvssy smell.

They already had 5 guys in the last year promise their love to them, to get in her pants... players...
she thought she fell in love 5 times and rode that carousel... thought they were real horses.

Either they want a ONS or a LTR, nothing in-between. The LTR types (you) they will take the time... tell about their mundane past and how she fvcked all these dudes and isnt going to let that happen again.
Your hunger and supplication, she knows you will never be a ONS or FWB and likely not genuine LTR material.

exhibit SIMP behavior

You are a perceived as a friend and that's all you will ever be if you continue in your current behavior.