"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I may be going through another lull point...

evolvingnerd

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guys it's happened to me before, but my conversation is going down the tube

i can't muster the energy nor the will to talk to people, and when i'm out with my friends, i'm again just sitting there and chilling, and not saying shyte all. it may be getting to the point that they wouldn't want to call me out anymore cause i'm a killjoy (that's what i would do if the situation were reversed anyway)

so i want to ask, what do you guys talk to your friends about?
say if you were to just chill at someone's place, what things do you talk about?

i've found that i can only talk about computer games :eek:

any ideas?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Forget about what you are going to say.

When you talk to people you are not conveying words, you are conveying an emotion to the poeple you talk to. I have been in your situation many times and I bet you feel you must talk but you just can't find anything to talk about. So you force yourself to talk and when you do that you convey an emotion of forced talking and the convo seems really lousy?

So it's important to understand that the words itself is not important, you have to feel fun to be fun to be with. I don't know what makes you have fun. I like to watch black adder and drink some whisky to it and laugh my ass off, I really mean laugh as hell and the endorphines start to rush.

Have fun before you go out, watch some funny movie, stand in the an icecold shower and laugh as hell. Read some stuff on a comic site. Anything to lighten the mood. When you got the mood the words will flow.
 

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Originally posted by evolvingnerd
i've found that i can only talk about computer games :eek:
Get a life. Try some other hobbies.

Read the news/watch sports. That'll give you sh!t to talk about. And pick up some new hobbies other than video games.

Also, the more people you talk to/associate with, the more stories/personalities you encounter, the more you have to relay to others.
 

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Re: Re: I may be going through another lull point...

Originally posted by squirrels
Also, the more people you talk to/associate with, the more stories/personalities you encounter, the more you have to relay to others.
good point! tons of gossip, and new material available all the time
 

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i've found that i can only talk about computer games
if you said Star Trek and computer games then you'd be a 100% bonafide dork.

What are your other hobbies? If you have more hobbies other then god damn video games you should have more to talk about. Video Games are ok, I quit them after highschool though, just do them in moderation.

The fact that you say you can only ever talk about computer games makes me think your some Star Trek "Beam me up scottie!" type geek. Get some more hobbies other then video games like Squirrels suggested, keep evolving from that nerd persona, if being a TRUE nerd is who you think you are, then stick to it though, no point being someone you're not.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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evolving my friend......let it be

How bout a zen story for all, something to think about:

A student who practices zen has been having a down period, his mediations are not going well and he cannot figure out why. To find answers to this problem he makes an appointment with an old wise zen master to talk to him about why this is happening and what he can do about it. "Oh master, my meditations have been going horrible for the past few weeks, i cannot concentrate, my legs feel cramped, and i am easily distracted by everything, what must i do to get better. Please help me oh wise one!" To this the master simply replied, "It will pass." The student somewhat dissapointed with the response left the room. He continued with his meditations despite his troubles in attaining a state if deep concentration. After a few weeks of a continued and consistant effort he began to notice his meditations improving. He wanted to share the good news with the wise zen master. SO he made another appointment to speak to him. "OH master, my mediations have been going great! I feel everything is coming to me clearly now, I can focus without distraction. It's AMAZING!" To this the old wise zen master simply replied, "It will pass."
 

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Originally posted by thefonz
evolving my friend......let it be

How bout a zen story for all, something to think about:

A student who practices zen has been having a down period, his mediations are not going well and he cannot figure out why. To find answers to this problem he makes an appointment with an old wise zen master to talk to him about why this is happening and what he can do about it. "Oh master, my meditations have been going horrible for the past few weeks, i cannot concentrate, my legs feel cramped, and i am easily distracted by everything, what must i do to get better. Please help me oh wise one!" To this the master simply replied, "It will pass." The student somewhat dissapointed with the response left the room. He continued with his meditations despite his troubles in attaining a state if deep concentration. After a few weeks of a continued and consistant effort he began to notice his meditations improving. He wanted to share the good news with the wise zen master. SO he made another appointment to speak to him. "OH master, my mediations have been going great! I feel everything is coming to me clearly now, I can focus without distraction. It's AMAZING!" To this the old wise zen master simply replied, "It will pass."
hahahaha
nice story
but yeah, i'm definitley trying to break away from my nerdy tendancies
i'm gonna get a job - that'll help, with the daily interactions

and LifeForce..that's exactly what is happening. i try to force the conversation, and then afterwards feel the awward silence would have been less awkward :p

thanks for the help fellas
first i'll start with me, findin some hobbies for myself
 
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