"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I made a girl hate me.

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This is something where I think my inexperience got to me. I was hooking up with this girl for a while. The whole time I thought we were just having fun.. she would call me up and say "i'm loonely" or something, then we'd go hang and eventually start making out. She facebook chats me every now and then and we talk for a bit about random stuff.. but overall I thought our relationship was just hooking up, and I thought she thought otherwise.

Then we're talking on fb chat tonight and she starts saying I don't give a **** about her, and that she views me as a close friend. I didn't know what to make of that, because I thought we were just hooking up and I didn't know she thought I was a really close friend. I tell her the honest truth, that I view her as a hookup first and a friend second, and that I thought she thought the same thing.

Well she flips out, saying that she's really hurt that I used her. She said she viewed me as a close friend all this time and she wouldn't have spent all the time talking to me if she didn't. She got offended at how I spent time talking to her if I didn't view her as a close friend. The thing that really seemed to tick her off was how I was so "heartlessly honest" (her words), by telling her that I viewed her as a hookup first and a friend second. But I've heard from many sources that honesty is the best thing in this situation.


****, she REALLY hates me. I really have no reference point for this kind of thing... this is the first time I've had anything like this happen to me. I guess it's all natural on the quest to success with women.

I need some perspective.. and some words of wisdom to go along with this. Help me out?

Thanks!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dunno man, she brought it up all of a sudden. We had a mutual confusion as to the nature of our relationship.
 

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hah.. she actually backed off in the course of this thread's replies. she's more relaxed now, and she's apologizing for being a crazy *****.

anyway.. my point is, how can I use this as a learning experience? did I make the right move in being honest with her? I feel like I can gain a lot of 1st hand knowledge from this. Was I wrong for assuming that she was only down to have fun? If I'm ever again in a situation where a girl hooks up with me yet still talks to me a lot just normally, is it correct to assume that she's looking to be primarily friends..or was this a special case?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Dude, heed my words now

Women can be a whole lot of crazy.
If they start exposing you to crazy **** like this then keep a cool head, ask them to explain and listen.
If it still ain't making sense then just get away from her for while. Keep yourself above such petty **** as this, don't get involved with it or try to give it your logic.

Stand up for the calm, rational, levelheadedness which has long been a quality of real men. She will respect you for this quality, once she realises what a crazy ***** shes been (the next day).
 

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SharinganUser said:
... But never talk about it if you can.
I've personally gotten into a lot of trouble using this method. Apparently I have a personality/temperament that identifies me as good significant other material. I found I was a lot better off making sure girls knew where we stood, or else they'd get a rude awakening later when they found out I wasn't going to be their boyfriend, and they'd be really angry/hurt.

From a getting laid standpoint you're probably better off not saying anything, but I'm uncomfortable making people hate me.
 
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Single_Sucks said:
Dude, heed my words now

Women can be a whole lot of crazy.
If they start exposing you to crazy **** like this then keep a cool head, ask them to explain and listen.
If it still ain't making sense then just get away from her for while. Keep yourself above such petty **** as this, don't get involved with it or try to give it your logic.

Stand up for the calm, rational, levelheadedness which has long been a quality of real men. She will respect you for this quality, once she realises what a crazy ***** shes been (the next day).
Sound advice.

I would tell her to f*ck right off and delete her from facebook, delete her number and find a "more normal" (as if) woman. Life is too short to be dealing with sh*t. Plenty more women around who are looking for fun and not friendships with benefits.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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