I 'm using a cane - Interesting observation about women

[Sun Tzu]

Since Sun Tzu has royal blood, he is now experiencing his first episode of the dreaded Gout. For those who don't know, Gout is an excruciating inflammation of the joint between the foot and the big toe. The pain is so intense that you can't even let a bed sheet rest against it.

Now to the point:
I've been going out to the stores with my cane for brief periods for the past two days, and I can't help but notice something disturbing... In general, men are courteous, hold doors, stay clear and generally show an attitude of consideration. They will often stop their vehicle to let me cross in front of them. In contrast, the VAST majority of women show no such consideration whatsoever. They generally have no interest in holding a door, they cut it too close when passing me, they will seldom slow their vehicle down, and in general show not even a concept of politeness and consideration. Of course I run into a lot of mother/young daughter sets, and the daughters are just as bad.

I'm finding this very disturbing as lately I've been realizing that for the past two years my opinion of women has been steadily declining. To be perfectly honest, more and more I'm seeing them as spoiled, self-absorbed and devoid of substance. My perception is that only about 5% or so are capable of rational thought of any kind. The also seem incapable of taking responsibility for their actions and seem to live for blaming others.

I've tried everything I could to talk myself out of this perception, but apparently I can't. The appalling way I've seen them treating me with the cane is only serving to cement that perception.

Please give me your thoughts on this, guys. I really don't want to harbor a grudge against women, but my real-world experience leads me to the conclusions I've expressed. It seems to me that men tend to live by principal, and women tend to live my reaction, emotion, and a sense of entitlement.

If this assessment is realistic, then how is a man to respect them?

Sun Tzu

 

[Soprano]

pft get over it

 

[Sun Tzu]

Thanks for adding your brilliant insights, Soprano. Stick with the "does she like me?" threads. You should be able to comprehend those and your obvious wisdom there will be appreciated.

 

[Centaurion]

I think it's the 'princess'-syndrome kicking in. Men have been catering up to these b!tches from day one, and now they act like they fvcking own this world.

Ever walked down a busy street when there are alot of 'hot' b!tches out? Observe how they walk. Hot b!tches generally tend to walk straight forward, not yielding one inch even if they see someone coming towards them. They take it for granted that the other person will move out of their way.

 

[Rudra]

I think it's the 'princess'-syndrome kicking in. Men have been catering up to these b!tches from day one, and now they act like they fvcking own this world.

Ever walked down a busy street when there are alot of 'hot' b!tches out? Observe how they walk. Hot b!tches generally tend to walk straight forward, not yielding one inch even if they see someone coming towards them. They take it for granted that the other person will move out of their way.

haha, would be good for some fun)) ...if the HB doesnt move, run straight into her, then tell her off)))) Now THAT´s cold approaching with a fun factor to it)))

But I hear you, Sun Tzu. But it´s the same here in Russia, it´s not just your spoiled US beotches. Chicks take it for granted you open doors for them etc. pp, the whole works, but usually don´t do the same for you... cane or no cane, hands or no hands.. Princesses. Yeah, it´s about 5% here too that are considerate. The classy few. But good people are rare, goes for men as well.

 

[Canadian Catnip]

Ever walked down a busy street when there are alot of 'hot' b!tches out? Observe how they walk. Hot b!tches generally tend to walk straight forward, not yielding one inch even if they see someone coming towards them. They take it for granted that the other person will move out of their way.

Wow, I thought it was just me. I have noticed this myself lately. I will be walking down the street and if two or three women are walking towards me side by side they will not change position in order to get by me. Two or three men will change from walking side by side into a line as they walk past me in order to help with the flow. But the women will usually plow right into my arm if I decide not to move aside. I think I have done this at least 50 times now and I think only one has said sorry for bumping into me. The rest seem to be too busy talking to each other.

It was frustrating at first, I thought there was something wrong with me, that they disrespected me. Now I realize that a lot of them believe that the man should get out of their way. I made a decision not to move aside for women anymore when I walk down the street now. :box:

 

[Randallpink83]

yeah I can clearly remember several times where a girl thought I would move out of her way, or a group of girls... all of them have been mistaken. I plow right the fvck through. I think its hilarious.

Unless its a crowded area where everyone is just trying to get by, then of course I maneuver around.

But the times that there is enough space for both of us and you can literally see her nose almost sticking up alittle further as we approach... yeah, screw that, I plow.

 

[Interceptor]

Sun Tzu, IMO they are reacting to a lower health/vitality impression of you.

How do you dress when you go out?

How is your posture?

Are you always 100% of the time well groomed, shaved, clean, neat, smelling good?

Are you at least in decent physical shape?

My hunch is perhaps, sorry fella, but perhaps you are not meeting the above criteria.

they are not responding to you as a human, as in judging your character.
They are responding to their perception of a man who is lower status.

Ailing health/advanced age=perception of lower status male




Concentrate on your self image of you as a Masculine Man.

Concentrate in portraying that Masculine Man you have inside to the outside world.


Awaken the masculine Spiritual Warrior within you.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Sun Tzu, IMO they are reacting to a lower health/vitality impression of you.

How do you dress when you go out?

How is your posture?

[snip] Re-quoted in-line below

Concentrate on your self image of you as a Masculine Man.

Concentrate in portraying that Masculine Man you have inside to the outside world.


Awaken the masculine Spiritual Warrior within you.

I can see why you would think that, in fact I expected at least one answer similar to yours. I'll address each of your points.

they are reacting to a lower health/vitality impression of you.

Yes, this is true, of course. But I'm talking about politeness here, not attraction or gaming or anything like that. I'm talking about women my age, older women, and younger. I expect no attraction when I'm hobbling around, but I expect politeness toward another human being who is injured.

How do you dress when you go out?

Well, I noticed it when I was dressed in nice jeans, a dress shirt and running shoes. I consider that the sloppiest I will ever go out in public (meaning that I wasn't dressed to the nines, but I was far from sloppy looking). Clean shaven and clean overall (I'm a hygeine nut...clean as a whistle always).

So as an experiment, I prettied myself up a few times and went out. Precisely the same result. I'm an extremely young looking guy for my age, but I reiterate here that I'm speaking about common decency toward a person who is injured, not attraction/gaming. I went out with real nice jeans, a very nice shirt, a necklace that looks great on me, and gel in the hair. This is the look that usually gets plenty of acknoledgement from the ladies when I'm out and about. But same result...pushing past me, not holding a door for me, walking past way too close, etc. But here's the thing, Interceptor... Most MEN are just the opposite. They treat me like a king, holding doors, stopping cars to let me go, insisting that I go ahead of them, etc. This definitely applies no matter how I dress.

How is your posture?

Great for a guy hobbling around with a cane! Of course attraction is the farthest thing from my mind while I have to use my cane. I'm just looking for basic human decency here. Normally I work hard on my posture...head held high, exuding confidence, no slouching, etc.

Are you always 100% of the time well groomed, shaved, clean, neat, smelling good?

Yes, my cleanliness and neatness are impeccable.

Are you at least in decent physical shape?

I'm in excellent shape, thanks to Warboss Alex. I work out regularly and walk/run 5 days per week. That's how I got into this "Gout" mess, though, Sneakers were freshly washed and therefore too tight. But I digress. This year I lost 25 lbs and I'm pretty close to my fighting weight. Still battling a slight pot belly but it is hardly noticeable now.

they are not responding to you as a human, as in judging your character.
They are responding to their perception of a man who is lower status.

Here's where your assumptions are getting off base, although I don't blame you for suspecting these things. I think I've established a better picture of how I handle myself out there at this point, though. The bottom line is that when I see a woman who I definitely am not attracted to, I will of course treat her with every courtesy and go out of my way to accommodate her injury, just like most of the guys here. Why on earth can't they do the same? Well, we already know...it is indeed the princess syndrome.

I reiterate that I certainly agree... a man with a cane is initially seen as much lower status when looking for a mate, but that is not my concern since my condition is temporary. I'm just appalled at the rudeness I'm experiencing.

Concentrate on your self image of you as a Masculine Man.

Concentrate in portraying that Masculine Man you have inside to the outside world.

Awaken the masculine Spiritual Warrior within you.

That's my way, my friend, and it's good advice. I've improved by leaps and bounds this year, and I'm very satisfied with the improvements I've created in my game. I started this whole thread because I'm beginning to think that only 3 to 5 percent of the female population has enough class to be worth my consideration, and that is really sad. But maybe that's just the reality I have to deal with; perhaps it's not so bad to have high standards. I'm a man who exudes class, and I don't say that with a snobby attitude. It's what I've worked for. I'm just amazed at the lack of common politeness and human caring from the female population.

OK, time for my Percocet.... None of this will matter in 20 minutes...

Sun Tzu

 

[KarmaSutra]

Didn't you see the Seinfeld episode where George walks around with a cane?
The best line in Seinfeld ever:

George approaches Jerry at the bar of a nightclub, carrying a cane.

George: "Hey hey hey, check me out, huh?"

Jerry: "No more crutches, that must be a relief."

George: "Yeah, with crutches everyone has questions."

Jerry: "Not with a cane?"

George: "Nah, with crutches it's a funny story, with a cane it's a sad story.

You through with those?"

George uses the cane handle to drag a bowl of pretzels over from the other end of the bar.

Jerry: "Always a sad story."

 

[Dilberto]

Women are inconsiderate TAKERS, period. Give them just ONE INCH......and they'll EXPECT 1.5 feet.

 

[Play the Game]

yeah I can clearly remember several times where a girl thought I would move out of her way, or a group of girls... all of them have been mistaken. I plow right the fvck through. I think its hilarious.

Unless its a crowded area where everyone is just trying to get by, then of course I maneuver around.

But the times that there is enough space for both of us and you can literally see her nose almost sticking up alittle further as we approach... yeah, screw that, I plow.

I thought i was the only one who enjoyed plowing! lol

My goal is to one day knock one of those tramps of the sidewalk into a muddy puddle... then they'll come out as a monster from the deep. haaha

 

[Potbelly]

Dude what you write about here is BULLSH1T. How can people do that? This is why I treat everyone well and hate the little fcks who don't respect their elders, other human beings and even their parents sometimes!

This is bullsh1t. Hey you're old...you can't really do anything to them, but all I gotta say is, raise your kids girl or boy to become better people than the scum you run across everyday.

I notice this as well, women on the sidewalk who don't move out of the fvcking way. HOWEVER I, as a considerate person, move out of the way often because they are wearing heels which doesn't fare too well on dirt/grass so I (wearing gym shoes) just move off to the side and let themp ass.

If I am coming by and these wh0res don't move out of the way when I have a bag or I am riding my bike or talking with a friend, then YES I plow right thru.

 

[up_an_up]

thats an interesting observation Sun. Mabye respect isnt a word in the female vocab. Most guys try to be somewhat respectful of each other because im sure they know what happens when they bump into the wrong guy. Mabye women have nothing to fear because no one really can do anything about their behavior.

 

[BacardiGuy]

I broke my ankle last year and was in a cast and on crutches for a few weeks. Both men and women were more considerate in my experience.

Maybe they just don't relate the cane to serious impairment?

 

[AETude]

its great work you have not only have this perception but you are testing it, keep it up mayb try a few more experiments similar, or even psychological experiments on girls you are dating. bravo...

i've had bad bad experiences myself, yes i think at times i spoil them too much, but its time to use the cane for what its designed for. smack them! lol

 

[Sun Tzu]

Dude what you write about here is BULLSH1T. How can people do that? This is why I treat everyone well and hate the little fcks who don't respect their elders, other human beings and even their parents sometimes!

This is bullsh1t. Hey you're old...you can't really do anything to them, but all I gotta say is, raise your kids girl or boy to become better people than the scum you run across everyday.[snip]

LOL, Potbelly. When I was your age, I used to feel sorry for people who were in their late 20's because they were so "old" and over the hill. When you actually make it to the other side of youth, you can't help but laugh because although you do tend to develop more general aches & pains, for all intents & purposes you're not much different than you were when you were younger. Sex drive is still through the roof. That should be encouraging to you!

I've always been blessed with the ability to shock people about my age. Two years ago a customer asked how old I am. I told her to guess. She said 28 (she was obviously very serious). Now 28 may be stretching credibility a bit, but I don't look a day over 34 or 35, I would say. I think maybe that my staying single has somehow preserved me well. When ever I walk past a bunch of young guys they never dare to screw with me because they can sense that I'm a fighter and that I still have plenty of spit & vinegar, plus they think I'm in my 30s.

Men I can handle when they get out of line. But women...what can you do? They're protected by society and they know that they are not held accountable for their actions. They will cry "rape" or "abuse" at the drop of a hat even if you brush up against them by not moving out of their way.

Anyway, Potbelly, you're right. What I have found out about women is bulsht, as you say, and I do believe that my data is conclusive in terms of the obvious differences between the PRINCIPALS that men live by and the almost complete lack of a principled life in the average woman.

My solution: No more average women. There are some classy ones out there, and I will hold out for them.

 

[Sun Tzu]

George: "Nah, with crutches it's a funny story, with a cane it's a sad story.
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That really is true. I had never really thought of it before. There seems to be a sense of "temporariness" with crutches, where canes seem to carry a sense of permanence.

I can't wait to get rid of this infernal cane. Should only be few more days.

 

[Sun Tzu]

thats an interesting observation Sun. Mabye respect isnt a word in the female vocab. Most guys try to be somewhat respectful of each other because im sure they know what happens when they bump into the wrong guy. Mabye women have nothing to fear because no one really can do anything about their behavior.

This experience has been a real eye-opener. I would have guessed just the opposite - that women would be the ones who would show empathy and act with some kind of caring. I have been out several times now to different stores and you can actually see how men will instinctively accommodate you, while the women are overwhelmingly just the opposite.

I must respectfully disagree with your reasoning as to why men show respect. I think it's more that men tend to strive to live by principal, whereas women have almost no concept of living by principal. That, plus they live with a sense of entitlement. I still do believe that there is a small minority (perhaps 3%) who are principled people and these are the ones who I want to be involved with.

 

[Sun Tzu]

I broke my ankle last year and was in a cast and on crutches for a few weeks. Both men and women were more considerate in my experience.

Maybe they just don't relate the cane to serious impairment?

It could be a geographical issue, too, although I see that you live in my state.