"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I love you"

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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From what I learned from this site, the man should never say it at all. It portrays a sense of neediness and stickiness to the partner, which is unattractive. Watch the movie "Hitch" to see what I am talking about.
 

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yes, i've heard that too.

but should you say it back?

and what if she hasn't said it yet. neither one of us have said it yet. its been 3 months so why hasn't she said it yet?

P.S - No i don't act this needy around women! :p
 

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girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
*shrugs* My boyfriend said it first and I didn't think it was AFC. There's nothing AFC about confidence in one's feelings and drive. Regardless of who says first, they shouldn't say it until they're certain that the feeling is mutual. Also, don't feel pressured to say it back.
How do i know the feeling is mutual? from her...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Wait for the chick to say it first and then when you begin saying it just make sure you don't overdo it by going all AFC with love talk everyday and you should be alright.
 

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inzone50 said:
yes, i've heard that too.

but should you say it back?

and what if she hasn't said it yet. neither one of us have said it yet. its been 3 months so why hasn't she said it yet?

P.S - No i don't act this needy around women! :p

Three months ain't much, dude!
 

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...seems to me, the time to say it, is when you're truly at the point where you just can't hold it in. ...and significantly longer than three months, too.
 
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IMO you should only utter those words when you've said it 1,000 times before nonverbally first, the both of you. If you're seriously going to go down that road you better be damned sure without a shadow of doubt or worry that it's what you both want though.

Anybody who uses this line to get into chicks pants on the other hand is just sad...or a skilled player using a developed tactic...it's hard to tell these days.
 
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