No.Danny
Master Don Juan
^ I wouldn't say it's funny. More of a paradox
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Biggest load of rubbish I've ever read. "Love them no matter what they do"???? Are you kidding me? You sound like the man who will be buying his wife flowers, teddies, chocolate and cars to apologize for confronting her cheating behavior when you caught her sleeping with another man in your own bed. You sound like a closet white knight.ChrisFloyd said:And you guys should too.![]()
I never get why some of you can be so much against the females.
I try to hold that point of view some time, but the girls keep pulling me out and make me love them even more.
Love them, that's all I can say, no matter what they do.
Just one small tip, love yourself first.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Bravo. This thread is basically saying to whiteknight women even in the poorest behavior. Just write it off as female prerogative to be b!tches. Is it any wonder women's behavior seems to be getting worse and more entitled? Men are basically socializing women to treat men like utter crap and females expect to be held to no standards. Today women actually believe that men should have no standards of female behavior while females should have unreasonable, shifting and unattainable standards for men.Espi said:I personally don't understand any man who doesn't encourage other men to hold some reservation or contempt for women.
Love them no matter what they do? Really?
Funny how I rarely hear women being encouraged to love men, no matter what they do. I was watching a reality TV program last week and the woman was contemplating divorce because her husband wasn't fully supporting her decision to lose weight. Imagine if it were the man contemplating divorce in that very same situation. Do you think a man could get away with that kind of behavior?
( . )( . ) said:The chorus of the newly satiated when thirst has finally been quenched.
I love women.
I love women more than you.
No I love women more than you.
No you don't, I do.
I love women more than you times infinity.
I wonder if the sluts over at muff post or jizzabell do sh!t like this?
OP you don't REALLY love women until they take a dump on your face. Everyone knows that.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Well Konduit, be glad approaching and talking to women, flirting with them, initiating/escalating with them is natural common sense for you, be glad you are able to get women since you have an ex-girlfriend or 2Konduit said:Man, I need some inspiration...coming out of a breakup, and having read a ton of dating advice/redpill theory, I'm feeling kind of disillusioned...I can't think of women in the same way again.
I still desire them, and want to find someone else, but the desire is not as strong or as pure as it was before...anyone else experience something similar?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Heh, I wish that were true man; everything I learned about women was through making mistakes and learning from them after the fact, not the most 'natural' game sense >_>.JaegerPilot217 said:Well Konduit, be glad approaching and talking to women, flirting with them, initiating/escalating with them is natural common sense for you, be glad you are able to get women since you have an ex-girlfriend or 2
When did you start making these mistakes and going through trial and error? High school?Konduit said:Heh, I wish that were true man; everything I learned about women was through making mistakes and learning from them after the fact, not the most 'natural' game sense >_>.
But as they say, experience can be the best teacher
Don't worry, everything will be fine.Konduit said:Man, I need some inspiration...coming out of a breakup, and having read a ton of dating advice/redpill theory, I'm feeling kind of disillusioned...I can't think of women in the same way again.
I still desire them, and want to find someone else, but the desire is not as strong or as pure as it was before...anyone else experience something similar?
Sorry you are having such a bad day.Zarky said:Pretty funny and bizarre thread, actually. Only on the internet.![]()
All the sosuave incel misogynists pop up to let us read between the lines that they haven't tapped actual human p*ssy in at least a decade. We know, guys, we know. You don't have to shout it quite that loudly.
I already wrote about this years ago:
http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/dont-take-advice-from-bitter-men/
However, I'll inject some logic into this emotional circle-jerk of a thread:
Anybody who "loves" or "hates" or feels anything toward women, men, blacks, jews, christians, Koreans, or whatever... is a deluded nutbag. It's normal to have feelings toward individuals, not entire groups of people. To have feelings toward entire groups of people is psychotic. It truly is. If you have feelings about an entire gender, race, religion, nationality, or anything like that you should turn off your computer and make an appointment with a licensed psychologist immediately because you're a nutcase.
Some women are worthy of your affection, some aren't. Same with any other group of humans. Some are ok, some are sh*t. That's logic. Anything else is insane ranting.
I will say that it never fails to amuse me that there are a ton of absolutely bonkers incels here who spend untold hundreds of hours typing up stuff about a gender they hate and fear. It's like going to a Corvette forum and half the posters hate Corvettes and rage against them in every post. To spend that much time discussing a topic you hate is a sign of major mental disorder.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.