"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey all,

Its been a while since the last time i was around here, but I really need to get this off me.

I'm just back from a second date (im almost 20, and it is my FIRST 2nd date... ) so, im pretty pissed off at my self cause i lacked the balls to do finish the date with a kiss ( my 1st kiss without alcoholic influence in both participants), the date was great, I took her home, walked her to her door, and she didnt say like a quick good bye, but stayed and chatted with me . So i got a little more balls and y kind of hold her with my arm around her , we keep talking and y start to play with her hair....men....the oportunity was right there, but i didnt make the move...... and then her mom came out and well.... the date ended .

Im pretty sure that she likes me (or at least is interested in me) so my doubt now is

a)the next time i go out with her , should I say something like look at her eyes, hold her hands and say"Hey, there's something I really wanted to do the other night ..." and give her the kiss? cause that's pretty much what my gut is telling me to do, like, i got to show her that I can do it and im not a AFC.

or

b) should go through out the whole 3rd date and END it with the kiss.... i just dont feel easy about this option. I feel like i left something unfinished and it needs to be fixed as soon as posible ...

if you want to, drop your opinion, I may go with my gut feelings at the end (if I dont chiken out again.... but i dont think i will let my self do that again...i would beat me up if did so)

Thanks for reading, i just really needed to let it go, and right now everyone home is asleep.

Saludos from Mexico
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Seems you're doing alright, go with your gut and do it at the right time. Try to avoid doing it at the end.
 

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I agree don't wait till end of next date...... actually guys should never wait till the end of any date. There's just too much pressure and chance for an awkward moment at the end of a date.

I'm not too good at picking up girls but I have to say that I'm very good at scoring a kiss when I am out with them so maybe i can give you some advice.

When I want to score with a chick I take her to a lounge with couches..... I live in New York City so they are all over. It's awesome cause you get to sit right next the girl and start some serious kino. I don't like going out to eat cause you have to sit across from her and that's very impersonal...... almost like a job interview. Plus the pressure of having to eat in front of someone new sucks. On the couch you have her right next to you and from there the possibilties are endless.

Order a few drinks (you may have to wait a year for this cause you're only 20 :) ) and get her feeling nice. By now the conversation should be flowing and if she's feelin you you will definately know it. She''ll probably have her hand on your knee or she'll be pressing her body up against yours while your talking.

From there you just have to wait for a time that both of you are looking into each others eyes for just a bit too long. Then just lean in very slowly with your eyes still locked on hers, with a slight smile, and plant a very soft gentle kiss on her. Don't go for tongue yet. Now pull back and keep looking in her eyes. She should have a big smile on her face and might giggle a little.

From here you can either go in for another soft kiss or wait till later. The more you keep her guessing and waiting the more she'll want you. Don't go for a serious makeout session till you guys are alone.

Hope these tips help..... I've successfully used these moves countless of times.
 

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Originally posted by BuckwildNYC
I agree don't wait till end of next date...... actually guys should never wait till the end of any date. There's just too much pressure and chance for an awkward moment at the end of a date.

I'm not too good at picking up girls but I have to say that I'm very good at scoring a kiss when I am out with them so maybe i can give you some advice.

When I want to score with a chick I take her to a lounge with couches..... I live in New York City so they are all over. It's awesome cause you get to sit right next the girl and start some serious kino. I don't like going out to eat cause you have to sit across from her and that's very impersonal...... almost like a job interview. Plus the pressure of having to eat in front of someone new sucks. On the couch you have her right next to you and from there the possibilties are endless.

Order a few drinks (you may have to wait a year for this cause you're only 20 :) ) and get her feeling nice. By now the conversation should be flowing and if she's feelin you you will definately know it. She''ll probably have her hand on your knee or she'll be pressing her body up against yours while your talking.

From there you just have to wait for a time that both of you are looking into each others eyes for just a bit too long. Then just lean in very slowly with your eyes still locked on hers, with a slight smile, and plant a very soft gentle kiss on her. Don't go for tongue yet. Now pull back and keep looking in her eyes. She should have a big smile on her face and might giggle a little.

From here you can either go in for another soft kiss or wait till later. The more you keep her guessing and waiting the more she'll want you. Don't go for a serious makeout session till you guys are alone.

Hope these tips help..... I've successfully used these moves countless of times.
hey, thanks for the tip, I think that can really work alright

about the drink stuff, Mexico's drinking age is 18 :D, but she's still under 18.. :eek:

about the softkiss, yeah, that I pretty much was aware of, woman like a softkiss first, and a serious make out as an ante to something else or when alone....i guess TV DO teach somethings.....:p
 

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Just be ez and stop worrying about that! Ler chase you! Relax and let sex be the last thing on your mind. It will happen when it will happen. But your inner rule should always be "she will chase me for everything".
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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