"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I just LBJF'd an HB

Flabbergasped?

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This is w/ a girl I know @ a party

Snippet of conversation:

HB: "Why won't you hook up with me?"
Me: "Cus we're friends, and it would be weird to hook up. It'd be pushing the boundaries of the relationship we have together.
HB: "blah blah"

I think at some point I did try to hook up with her, though it was in public and I wasn't really making an effort. She didn't go along.

How do I get her in my pants? Anything to keep in mind in these cases?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You're playing hard to get but maybe too hard to get? How did you try hook up with her?
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
This is w/ a girl I know @ a party

Snippet of conversation:

HB: "Why won't you hook up with me?"
Me: "Cus we're friends, and it would be weird to hook up. It'd be pushing the boundaries of the relationship we have together.
HB: "blah blah"

I think at some point I did try to hook up with her, though it was in public and I wasn't really making an effort. She didn't go along.

How do I get her in my pants? Anything to keep in mind in these cases?
Way to put positive thoughts in her head :down:

If you are attempting to make her chase you, you need to use better use of language. You can't just give an excuse and hope she tries to get around it, you have to kind of plant what you want her to do/see in her head and let it grow. Ie: when someone says 'Don't imagine a pink elephant' its the first thing that pops into your mind. Also, don't talk facts, talk emotions. Talk about feelings and use emotive words.

As for your question of getting into her pants, when she gives you the open 3 ....TAKE IT!!! It's called push AND pull, not push and see if she gets back up. Give her a reason to chase and she will, but constantly push her away and she will go (unless she is LSE)
 

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Well hang fire a sec there mate, abit more information is needed here.

I've known women, who have no intention of sleeping with me, and I have dis-continued them as options. When they see me forget about them and move onto other women, they get all pissy because I'm not fawning over them and trying to convince them to sleep with me (like an AFC would).

To this end, they'll indulge in a plethora of new tatics (bearing in mind they still don't want to sleep with me). I'll mention how hot another girl looks, or who I am sleeping with/want to sleep with, and they'll say "yeah, but you'd still sleep with me first, right?", or "Do you think I'm hot(ter than her)?".

It's a hit to their Ego, that I'm not pining after them, or trying to "win" them over. They don't want me, they want me to be in the long line of suitors who're patiently waiting for their chance with them (which'll more than likely never come). Once I put them over the other women (yes, you're hotter than her/ I'd sleep with you first), it's game over to them, they win.

This just might be her Ego talking.
 
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