"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I just got my first taste of being Mr Non-Nice Guy(by way of a girl)

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Hey. I just got a text from a girl saying that she just wanted to be friends with me. I replied back with Ok, I don't have time to meet with girls that just want to be friends". She told me that that was really rude. I'm not used to being Mr. Non-Nice Guy, but I had to stand my ground. This is the first time I've had a little negativity come my way, oh well, I better get used to it. My mind is split, the AFC biatch in me is saying I should feel guilty, while the side of me that approaches women I don't know is saying "Oh, well, you had to stand your ground and live your life". So we know where I'm standing.:)
How could this be perceived as rude anyways?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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f283000 said:
Don't stop there and keep it up! Tell her to make you a sandwish :D
I gotta go with sandwish man here.

Having a chick mad at you for being rude, is making sure she's thinking of you when she diddles her little pvssy to sleep.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
I gotta go with sandwish man here.

Having a chick mad at you for being rude, is making sure she's thinking of you when she diddles her little pvssy to sleep.

Thats officially my new favorite quote.
 

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oldschooler said:
What a tool. You just missed out on a chance to meet with a girl and seduce her because you were afraid of being friend zoned. As soon as you tools hear the word friend, you freak the fuck out and quickly try to 'do what a DJ would'. How incredibly retarded to take everything so literally.

Even if you did get friend zoned, chill the fuck out because it's perfectly OK to have female friends. Also, you missed out on meeting more girls through her because of the retarded conditioning of this site on your already vulnerable egos.

Seriously, take a look at what you just did. This isn't bad-ass or productive no matter how I look at it.
lol....

OP your not wrong for doing what you did but your wrong in coming in here and basically "branging"

Do what you do and stand your ground. If you don't want to be her friend and don't want anything to do with her you did the right thing.

Don't do something because it feels right. Do something because you want to do it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally Posted by oldschooler
What a tool. You just missed out on a chance to meet with a girl and seduce her because you were afraid of being friend zoned. As soon as you tools hear the word friend, you freak the **** out and quickly try to 'do what a DJ would'. How incredibly retarded to take everything so literally.

Even if you did get friend zoned, chill the **** out because it's perfectly OK to have female friends. Also, you missed out on meeting more girls through her because of the retarded conditioning of this site on your already vulnerable egos.

Seriously, take a look at what you just did. This isn't bad-ass or productive no matter how I look at it.
Ease up, it's a phase, if he's a 'beginner' he's well advised to lean on 'rules' and techniques for a while, eventually he'll come to rely more on intuition and experience. Cultivating that experience is more important than getting this one particular situation to play out right. Your own game might have evolved differently but that's the way it happens for the majority.

"What a tool....freak the **** out....incredibly retarded...chill the **** out....retarded conditioning....already vulnerable egos....isn't bad ass"

Think that's going to help people come around to your point of view?

Play the ball, not the man.
 

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I don't think that what the OP said was wrong, but oldschooler is definitely right. You could have always kept her on as a friend and just continued to escalate/seduce her. Despite what a lot of people say, you CAN seduce female friends, oh yes you can. You just have to keep a strong sexual frame.
 

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Lol....bro do you really think she wanted to be your friend.

She wasn't interested in you and wanted to let you down easily. Your response was retarded in that you took her statement too literally.

If there was any possibility of friendship, you just totally blew it coming off
as an angry douche.
 

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the manginas on this thread never cease to amaze me. If women were attracted to flowers, sweetness and smiles 24/7, there would be no need for sosuave. But that isn't the way the world turns, isn't it?
 

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Deicide said:
Hey. I just got a text from a girl saying that she just wanted to be friends with me. I replied back with Ok, I don't have time to meet with girls that just want to be friends". She told me that that was really rude. I'm not used to being Mr. Non-Nice Guy, but I had to stand my ground.

No prob. I wouldn't mind using this on a girl if she didn't really have any hot friends that she could hook you up with.

it's ok to spike a little drama and emotions from time to time. Just own it (the mentality) and stand your ground.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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zekko said:
I don't think that what the OP said was wrong, but oldschooler is definitely right. You could have always kept her on as a friend and just continued to escalate/seduce her. Despite what a lot of people say, you CAN seduce female friends, oh yes you can. You just have to keep a strong sexual frame.
I think you can too, but you have a limited time window to do so. If you wait too long, you become her brother. Then you have no chance.
 

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My opinion is do things the right way first. Follow Anti-Dump. Once she shoes disintrest then that is when you need to let her be. Too many girls in the world to be playing chess with a girl whose disentrested in you.
 

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The BB.com Misc way of doing things when it comes to women works better for me than Sosuave. (I think its cause of my physique and my attitude) However, I also like to have a nrain behind my brawn...just saying.
 

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Burning the bridges and verbalizing it is not very wise, but if you could not care less, I don't see why not. And the other thing is that women aren't stupid either - they know you want pus$y and it's gonna take a lot work to get there once you are into this faux friendship, if at all. You simply better to put your bet on other women, given there are more. This friendship never flies with me because they know what's gonna happen once we are one on one. And than, would you wanna have a woman whose IL flactuates like that? It probably will go down at some point again and here we go doing the same thing again and asking the same questions.That's my own approach to this problem. You gotta start right and maintain right from the very first contact- the rest is a chess game, but I happen to like them. After all, do you have anything to lose with her? Nothing invested, and her friends? Ehhh
 

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Deicide said:
Hey. I just got a text from a girl saying that she just wanted to be friends with me.
Well, you already got a good flaming and as well as some good advice. Move on and learn.

And next time, reply with this.

;)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I think the best reply in this situation is a simple "Ok". This short answer says all you really need to say without saying it:
a) I get the picture.
b) It's no big deal.
c) I'm moving on.
This, followed by no contact or minimal contact if you can't avoid it. It's better to avoid explaining to her why you don't want to be "friends" - this sets up an unnecessary battle and is a potential trap if you're dealing with an attention *****.
 

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vatoloco said:
Well, you already got a good flaming and as well as some good advice. Move on and learn.

And next time, reply with this.

;)
Haha, that was great!
And thanks for the advice everyone. I have class with her tomorrow, but I'm sure I'll just ignore her.
 

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Negative reinforcement works best. Prove me wrong. Ideally with links to studies...
A little method behind the madness eh? Jesus, you'd think after ten plus years in the military I'd recognise the angry drill sergeant routine. No beef with that.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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