"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I just got married and think I made a mistake...

King Lion

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Hi brothers. YOUR opinion will be much appreciated.

I recently got married. Like 4 months ago. Knowing each other only roughly for a year. Being red pill aware. For about last 2 years (man I had really fun times with different women, while traveling mainly, and living abroad). Yeah, I know. We both are from different cultures and countries. We met while both living abroad for awhile. (She's from South America, Im from Eastern Europe). But, we are planning to move to Canada in a year or two.

(The good thing though is that I DO NOT have any assets to loose, neither has she). I am broke at the moment. (Because of lockdowns and my choice to returning to studying full time). The idea is to build everything together from scratch..

This might be a bit odd to share it with this community, but most of the guys in my circle are either heavily blue pilled or rather few PUA's with "fuk everything that moves" mentality, so I have nobody really to ask for a genuine opinion.

The main reason why I got married, was because I always wanted to have kids, and a happy family of my own, to teach them those things my parents and grandparents didnt thought me, to raise them as great human beings, to let them achieve their dreams, and help others, like I have done most of my life. But lately, with all this bs that is now happening around the world, I have so many doubts if I actually want to bring my own children to this fckd up world. Also being red pill aware, I dont believe in a fairy tale, and happily ever after. Although my wife has most of the qualities I see in a mother of my kids, which I never saw in any other woman I was dating with.

Being red pill aware, I can not fully believe that she will never ever cheat on me. Although we had some very though discussions about this and me making her cry, she promising me that she would never do anything like that to me. Is that even possible ? I mean, I make her cry and laugh in bed and give a lot of pleasure and orgasms. I have a good package and she desires it. Im quite good looking, strong, with a solid sports history, but rather skinny/fit, have no big muscles (which I would still like to work on and achieve my genetical potential). Although she says she likes my body, I would not like her to see some big alphas to trying to get in her panties, and her being vulnerable falling for that, just because she could not see it in me.

My biggest problem is that I haven't achieved my potential, and at the moment am quite broke. She is doing a bit better, and willing to help me financially while I finish my studies (I returned to those after many years), and keep working and progressing professionally herself. It scares the **** out of me to being aware that Im kind of loosing my freedom, and starting to build something new when I haven't really fixed myself, and so should she. It will take me some years to get back stability financial wise, and to be ready to even start planning the kids. I am 33 and she is 31. I still have time, but does she?!

I have sacrificed myself moving to a different country at this moment, and quitting my job just to finish my studies, for both of us, not only myself. Its not like I am filthy rich and she has got the winner at the finish line. She has chosen to stick with me and build everything together, from zero. Which is surprising, and not usual at all. We are both good people, that I know. But it would hurt me so bad if she would loose the patience along the way. Or even worse change her mind in 10-15 years with 2 kids, under our belt, just because of something related to female nature and thinking along the journey.

What are your thoughts? Am I making my life more difficult as always, or I might have won the lottery of 2% ?

Another quote that hit me hard yesterday (although I haven't yet become the king I would like to be, but:
"What's the point of becoming a king, if you don't raise a prince who will take the throne after you die ?"
Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.

Proverbs 5:15
Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the LORD.

Proverbs 19:14
Houses and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the LORD.

Matthew 6:33-34
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.

“Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.” ~Proverbs 22:6
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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FuzzX

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This is not the forum for marriage advice, most of these guys will be single forever or as reddit calls it: ForeverAlone.

BTW don't move to Toronto, that would end your marriage real quick. If you want her to stay close to you, go for Nunavut or Manitoba... her life will always be in danger out there Corona virus or not. Yellowknife would be your best bet, its cold as hell, work is well paid and everyone up there is a friendly as a hungry polar bear. Either that or go out to the oil platforms... fort Mac b4 the fire. Get some tickets before you come.
 
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bat soup

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Hi brothers. YOUR opinion will be much appreciated.

I recently got married. Like 4 months ago. Knowing each other only roughly for a year. Being red pill aware. For about last 2 years (man I had really fun times with different women, while traveling mainly, and living abroad). Yeah, I know. We both are from different cultures and countries. We met while both living abroad for awhile. (She's from South America, Im from Eastern Europe). But, we are planning to move to Canada in a year or two.

(The good thing though is that I DO NOT have any assets to loose, neither has she). I am broke at the moment. (Because of lockdowns and my choice to returning to studying full time). The idea is to build everything together from scratch..

This might be a bit odd to share it with this community, but most of the guys in my circle are either heavily blue pilled or rather few PUA's with "fuk everything that moves" mentality, so I have nobody really to ask for a genuine opinion.

The main reason why I got married, was because I always wanted to have kids, and a happy family of my own, to teach them those things my parents and grandparents didnt thought me, to raise them as great human beings, to let them achieve their dreams, and help others, like I have done most of my life. But lately, with all this bs that is now happening around the world, I have so many doubts if I actually want to bring my own children to this fckd up world. Also being red pill aware, I dont believe in a fairy tale, and happily ever after. Although my wife has most of the qualities I see in a mother of my kids, which I never saw in any other woman I was dating with.

Being red pill aware, I can not fully believe that she will never ever cheat on me. Although we had some very though discussions about this and me making her cry, she promising me that she would never do anything like that to me. Is that even possible ? I mean, I make her cry and laugh in bed and give a lot of pleasure and orgasms. I have a good package and she desires it. Im quite good looking, strong, with a solid sports history, but rather skinny/fit, have no big muscles (which I would still like to work on and achieve my genetical potential). Although she says she likes my body, I would not like her to see some big alphas to trying to get in her panties, and her being vulnerable falling for that, just because she could not see it in me.

My biggest problem is that I haven't achieved my potential, and at the moment am quite broke. She is doing a bit better, and willing to help me financially while I finish my studies (I returned to those after many years), and keep working and progressing professionally herself. It scares the **** out of me to being aware that Im kind of loosing my freedom, and starting to build something new when I haven't really fixed myself, and so should she. It will take me some years to get back stability financial wise, and to be ready to even start planning the kids. I am 33 and she is 31. I still have time, but does she?!

I have sacrificed myself moving to a different country at this moment, and quitting my job just to finish my studies, for both of us, not only myself. Its not like I am filthy rich and she has got the winner at the finish line. She has chosen to stick with me and build everything together, from zero. Which is surprising, and not usual at all. We are both good people, that I know. But it would hurt me so bad if she would loose the patience along the way. Or even worse change her mind in 10-15 years with 2 kids, under our belt, just because of something related to female nature and thinking along the journey.

What are your thoughts? Am I making my life more difficult as always, or I might have won the lottery of 2% ?

Another quote that hit me hard yesterday (although I haven't yet become the king I would like to be, but:
"What's the point of becoming a king, if you don't raise a prince who will take the throne after you die ?"
If she's earning more than you, then in the worst case if things don't work out you will get half. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. Maybe you could even say that you've "grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle" and sponge off her forever whilst travelling the world banging hos.
 

Grounded eagle

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Hi brothers. YOUR opinion will be much appreciated.

I recently got married. Like 4 months ago. Knowing each other only roughly for a year. Being red pill aware. For about last 2 years (man I had really fun times with different women, while traveling mainly, and living abroad). Yeah, I know. We both are from different cultures and countries. We met while both living abroad for awhile. (She's from South America, Im from Eastern Europe). But, we are planning to move to Canada in a year or two.

(The good thing though is that I DO NOT have any assets to loose, neither has she). I am broke at the moment. (Because of lockdowns and my choice to returning to studying full time). The idea is to build everything together from scratch..

This might be a bit odd to share it with this community, but most of the guys in my circle are either heavily blue pilled or rather few PUA's with "fuk everything that moves" mentality, so I have nobody really to ask for a genuine opinion.

The main reason why I got married, was because I always wanted to have kids, and a happy family of my own, to teach them those things my parents and grandparents didnt thought me, to raise them as great human beings, to let them achieve their dreams, and help others, like I have done most of my life. But lately, with all this bs that is now happening around the world, I have so many doubts if I actually want to bring my own children to this fckd up world. Also being red pill aware, I dont believe in a fairy tale, and happily ever after. Although my wife has most of the qualities I see in a mother of my kids, which I never saw in any other woman I was dating with.

Being red pill aware, I can not fully believe that she will never ever cheat on me. Although we had some very though discussions about this and me making her cry, she promising me that she would never do anything like that to me. Is that even possible ? I mean, I make her cry and laugh in bed and give a lot of pleasure and orgasms. I have a good package and she desires it. Im quite good looking, strong, with a solid sports history, but rather skinny/fit, have no big muscles (which I would still like to work on and achieve my genetical potential). Although she says she likes my body, I would not like her to see some big alphas to trying to get in her panties, and her being vulnerable falling for that, just because she could not see it in me.

My biggest problem is that I haven't achieved my potential, and at the moment am quite broke. She is doing a bit better, and willing to help me financially while I finish my studies (I returned to those after many years), and keep working and progressing professionally herself. It scares the **** out of me to being aware that Im kind of loosing my freedom, and starting to build something new when I haven't really fixed myself, and so should she. It will take me some years to get back stability financial wise, and to be ready to even start planning the kids. I am 33 and she is 31. I still have time, but does she?!

I have sacrificed myself moving to a different country at this moment, and quitting my job just to finish my studies, for both of us, not only myself. Its not like I am filthy rich and she has got the winner at the finish line. She has chosen to stick with me and build everything together, from zero. Which is surprising, and not usual at all. We are both good people, that I know. But it would hurt me so bad if she would loose the patience along the way. Or even worse change her mind in 10-15 years with 2 kids, under our belt, just because of something related to female nature and thinking along the journey.

What are your thoughts? Am I making my life more difficult as always, or I might have won the lottery of 2% ?

Another quote that hit me hard yesterday (although I haven't yet become the king I would like to be, but:
"What's the point of becoming a king, if you don't raise a prince who will take the throne after you die ?"
I’d trust her actions more than her words.The thing with women is that their opinion on a man can change from hour to hour,I mean,everyone’s heard a story about women betraying the men they swore they’d be loyal to.If ever it reaches a point between the two of you where you feel like you’re losing her,it should be pretty obvious to see if you know what to look for.
 

Grounded eagle

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Hi brothers. YOUR opinion will be much appreciated.

I recently got married. Like 4 months ago. Knowing each other only roughly for a year. Being red pill aware. For about last 2 years (man I had really fun times with different women, while traveling mainly, and living abroad). Yeah, I know. We both are from different cultures and countries. We met while both living abroad for awhile. (She's from South America, Im from Eastern Europe). But, we are planning to move to Canada in a year or two.

(The good thing though is that I DO NOT have any assets to loose, neither has she). I am broke at the moment. (Because of lockdowns and my choice to returning to studying full time). The idea is to build everything together from scratch..

This might be a bit odd to share it with this community, but most of the guys in my circle are either heavily blue pilled or rather few PUA's with "fuk everything that moves" mentality, so I have nobody really to ask for a genuine opinion.

The main reason why I got married, was because I always wanted to have kids, and a happy family of my own, to teach them those things my parents and grandparents didnt thought me, to raise them as great human beings, to let them achieve their dreams, and help others, like I have done most of my life. But lately, with all this bs that is now happening around the world, I have so many doubts if I actually want to bring my own children to this fckd up world. Also being red pill aware, I dont believe in a fairy tale, and happily ever after. Although my wife has most of the qualities I see in a mother of my kids, which I never saw in any other woman I was dating with.

Being red pill aware, I can not fully believe that she will never ever cheat on me. Although we had some very though discussions about this and me making her cry, she promising me that she would never do anything like that to me. Is that even possible ? I mean, I make her cry and laugh in bed and give a lot of pleasure and orgasms. I have a good package and she desires it. Im quite good looking, strong, with a solid sports history, but rather skinny/fit, have no big muscles (which I would still like to work on and achieve my genetical potential). Although she says she likes my body, I would not like her to see some big alphas to trying to get in her panties, and her being vulnerable falling for that, just because she could not see it in me.

My biggest problem is that I haven't achieved my potential, and at the moment am quite broke. She is doing a bit better, and willing to help me financially while I finish my studies (I returned to those after many years), and keep working and progressing professionally herself. It scares the **** out of me to being aware that Im kind of loosing my freedom, and starting to build something new when I haven't really fixed myself, and so should she. It will take me some years to get back stability financial wise, and to be ready to even start planning the kids. I am 33 and she is 31. I still have time, but does she?!

I have sacrificed myself moving to a different country at this moment, and quitting my job just to finish my studies, for both of us, not only myself. Its not like I am filthy rich and she has got the winner at the finish line. She has chosen to stick with me and build everything together, from zero. Which is surprising, and not usual at all. We are both good people, that I know. But it would hurt me so bad if she would loose the patience along the way. Or even worse change her mind in 10-15 years with 2 kids, under our belt, just because of something related to female nature and thinking along the journey.

What are your thoughts? Am I making my life more difficult as always, or I might have won the lottery of 2% ?

Another quote that hit me hard yesterday (although I haven't yet become the king I would like to be, but:
"What's the point of becoming a king, if you don't raise a prince who will take the throne after you die ?"
Personally though, I believe more and more that marriage is a raw deal for men.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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manfrombelow

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I agree that having kids is not for everyone. And if OP thinks it's not for him, then maybe he's right. And it's totally normal.
 
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