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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

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I have trouble kinoing when not flirting or talking about sex

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Randomly invited an acquaintance out with me and my guy last night. We got touchy-feely right off the bat, he sensed this, and made up an excuse to get out of there.

Continued great (e.g. - my hand on her ass, me shoving her into a snowbank, etc.) but then when we left the second bar to chat in private somewhere, we started discussing stuff like family and music -- none of which is especially "sexy" subject matter, and I completely stopped kinoing and escalating. (I ended up inviting her back to my place and we had coffee - all well and good, but all we did was have a very, very long conversation about unsexy stuff like music and video games.)

It hit me right after I walked her out to her car -- anything that isn't idle sex chatter makes me into a eunuch. Should I have closed the deal, then concentrated on getting to know her?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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starfishandcoffee said:
It hit me right after I walked her out to her car -- anything that isn't idle sex chatter makes me into a eunuch. Should I have closed the deal, then concentrated on getting to know her?
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Yes.

You took your foot off the gas, and it cost you. You had momentum going, so you always strike while the iron is hot.

The title of your thread strikes me as odd. I think the mindset of "I am not flirting with this girl" is pretty weird. Flirting isn't a conscious decision IMO...it is simply having fun. You always wanna be a fun guy. You can turn even mundane topics into something fun.

"Oh, you play soccer? I bet I'd kick your ass!" (while poking or something like that). Keep things light and interesting, and don't ****block yourself like you just did.
 
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"No guts, no glory" is as true with regards to kinoing as it is in playing poker and gold mining.

Grab her by the arm or the back of the neck, or punch her. Because you aren't afraid to touch her.

Then you can get all R Kelly on her later.
 
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Well use your hands to demonstrate a point. Whatever you're talking about, try to gesticulate more, and when applicable, you can turn it into playful touching. Think about French people, they talk with their hands all the time ;)
 
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