I have Great luck with attractive women 30+ or women between 25-30 who are single moms

[bigdave17]

No, i told him not to chase them, but rather interact with them, there is a difference.

just keep on with your life then... that's what I'd do. Keep building your connections and circles. And keep your frame. eventually you'll find some good quality females.

I'm an obsessive perfectionist

I am constantly trying to improve my look, my money, my personality, my lifestyle, my social circle, etc... I am just having zero luck with women in my league. It's so unbelievably frustrating. It's been like this for years

 

[Jetleg]

I'm an obsessive perfectionist

I am constantly trying to improve my look, my money, my personality, my lifestyle, my social circle, etc... I am just having zero luck with women in my league. It's so unbelievably frustrating. It's been like this for years

I hate to say it, but you might be boring or uninteresting then (to the women you want). Btw. Where are you approaching women and what turns out of it? Share your game and tactics.

My guess is, your game is weak. You also might not appeal to young women for some reason (body language for example) or you might even dress too old for your age.

Set a goal to interact with women that you find attractive. Don't even take their number just practice on your game.

 

[bigdave17]

I hate to say it, but you might be boring or uninteresting then (to the women you want). Btw. Where are you approaching women and what turns out of it? Share your game and tactics.

My guess is, your game is weak. You also might not appeal to young women for some reason (body language for example) or you might even dress too old for your age.

Set a goal to interact with women that you find attractive. Don't even take their number just practice on your game.

I don't really have any technique. I am a people's person so I figure my natural self should have no problem approaching women. I make 160k a year because I can make people love me instantly in sales. I'm super chill and genuine and people feel comfortable around me.

I approach mostly in bars. I find the cold approach in random places like gyms and stores to be brutally difficult

I dress super nice - high end button down shirts and jeans with nice shoes. Everything always matches correctly with colors

 

[bigdave17]

Where are you meeting those women? Let me guess...

lol why you say that?

 

[captain55]

Op- of course you have more success with women between 25 and 30. A woman is at her peak in smv in her early 20’s.

 

[bigdave17]

Op- of course you have more success with women between 25 and 30. A woman is at her peak in smv in her early 20’s.

I actually prefer a woman at 25 to 26....i just can't meet anybody who is quality without kids

 

[captain55]

I actually prefer a woman at 25 to 26....i just can't meet anybody who is quality without kids

On an intellectual level so do I. the girl I am talking with now is 26....... But there is no girl that looks better at 26 than she did at 23..even if the change is slight. There is something about the freshness in the faces of young women that no amount of makeup, working out, etc can replace. Also fertility starts declining at 27...I would like to date a chick a few years before deciding if I want to have kids with her. Notice the guys with the highest SMV....they usually date young chicks below 25

 

[bigdave17]

On an intellectual level so do I. the girl I am talking with now is 26....... But there is no girl that looks better at 26 than she did at 23..even if the change is slight. There is something about the freshness in the faces of young women that no amount of makeup, working out, etc can replace. Also fertility starts declining at 27...I would like to date a chick a few years before deciding if I want to have kids with her. Notice the guys with the highest SMV....they usually date young chicks below 25

depends on ethnicity

light skinned white girls age horribly. Hot black or Hispanic girls look great way past 25

 

[marmel75]

I'm not looking for 18-22. I really want mid to late 20s. 25 or 26 would be perfect

I don't understand why it has been so hard for me to meet someone my age with no kids. I have no problem with women my age if they are single moms coincidentally

Then bang those women while you continue to look for your exact match.

 

[marmel75]

depends on ethnicity

light skinned white girls age horribly. Hot black or Hispanic girls look great way past 25

Again these blanket statements are just dumb and not true.

 

[bigdave17]

Then bang those women while you continue to look for your exact match.

ehhh

they always end up wanting a relationship with me and I feel guilty for misleading them (which I never tell them I want a relationship but all women think that way)

 

[marmel75]

ehhh

they always end up wanting a relationship with me and I feel guilty for misleading them (which I never tell them I want a relationship but all women think that way)

Why would you feel guilty? Are you misleading them?

If not then who cares? They want sex from you, give it to them.

 

[Red Legg]

but terrible luck asking out attractive girls my age or a little younger (say 22-30) who don't have kids. Ideally I want somebody 23-27

Yuck......I hate millennial women,waaayyy to entitled with b!tchy attitudes too boot...give me an Hb 8 plus 30 something single momie over that sh!t any day of the week.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Yuck......I hate millennial women,waaayyy to entitled with b!tchy attitudes too boot...give me an Hb 8 plus 30 something single momie over that sh!t any day of the week.

They're barely even people. They grew up staring at television, computer, and Pokemon. And they think they deserve everything for free.

 

[Red Legg]

They're barely even people. They grew up staring at television, computer, and Pokemon. And they think they deserve everything for free.

Agree.... lower than amphibian Sh!t....

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Agree.... lower than amphibian Sh!t....

And this is what I'm supposed to "work on myself" for to get?

Makes no sense.

 

[bigdave17]

Yuck......I hate millennial women,waaayyy to entitled with b!tchy attitudes too boot...give me an Hb 8 plus 30 something single momie over that sh!t any day of the week.

I'm looking to date seriously dude

hot single moms are great to **** but you can't seriously date that when you're a 28 year old guy. I need to date a girl in her mid 20s

What exasperates the problem is I'm a very high testosterone dark skinned male. I date somebody older than me and in 15 years from now, it will look like I'm dating my grandma. The men in my family look 35 at 50. If I date a white girl especially, I need to date someone like 8 years younger than me

 

[Red Legg]

I'm looking to date seriously dude

hot single moms are great to **** but you can't seriously date that when you're a 28 year old guy. I need to date a girl in her mid 20s

What exasperates the problem is I'm a very high testosterone dark skinned male. I date somebody older than me and in 15 years from now, it will look like I'm dating my grandma. The men in my family look 35 at 50. If I date a white girl especially, I need to date someone like 8 years younger than me

I don't suggest you date anyone older than you,the single mom who is my main plate is years younger than I,you should be fvckin women around 10 years younger than yourself but I wouldn't date any woman that age "seriously"

 

[bigdave17]

I don't suggest you date anyone older than you,the single mom who is my main plate is years younger than I,you should be fvckin women around 10 years younger than yourself but I wouldn't date any woman that age "seriously"

yea but seriously dating single moms is bull**** too

Do I want another man always involved in my life? F*ck no. I would maybe and I mean MAYBE be ok if she is like a widow where her ex husband died

Single moms are hardcore gold diggers too. The second any of them know that I'm making big money and have my own house and drive a $70,000 Lexus, they pretty much want to marry me. The single girls with no kids won't even go out on a date with me (even though I'm good looking and outgoing/personable also)

 

[Red Legg]

yea but seriously dating single moms is bull**** too

Do I want another man always involved in my life? F*ck no. I would maybe and I mean MAYBE be ok if she is like a widow where her ex husband died

Single moms are hardcore gold diggers too. The second any of them know that I'm making big money and have my own house and drive a $70,000 Lexus, they pretty much want to marry me. The single girls with no kids won't even go out on a date with me (even though I'm good looking and outgoing/personable also)

None of what you said about single moms is true in my case though that is why you keep an arms length distance,in my case she is better off than me and like I was just discussing in another thread we are both game aware so it's not like I will be taken advantage of somehow that just won't happen.She is an excellent main actually.