I Have Anger Problems/I Don't Know What To Do

[taiyuu_otoko]

I suggest a skype chat so you guys can actually tell what's off about Ten rather than judging through a wall of text.

I know what's exactly "off" about Tenacity. It's the same that's off with most guys who suck with women. Just different in matters of degree. But to actually hear it, you have to WANT to hear it.

He does not.

 

[Tenacity]

I suggest a skype chat so you guys can actually tell what's off about Ten rather than judging through a wall of text.

Also fvcking low quality trash when you are out there searching for 'high quality' is equivalent to the fat guy who says 'I'll continue eating macdonalds until I get my weight loss diet in check.' Half-a$$ things and you get half-a$$ed results.

I'm open to this. Also I think this thread has been awesome, it's been passionate on all sides. T.O. I'm taking the suggestions you have put up here and I will update this thread with report.

In terms of the "more quality women" focus, it's been going on 10 days now. I use OLD and my social circle to gather women. It's been going okay, these women are just more DIFFICULT to deal with. But I will keep this thread updated. When I say more difficult, they are just stuck up (boogie) like FVCK and it's a little different to always tailor my personality to this shyt.

But yeah, if you guys want to do a chat (video or just by telephone), I'm open to it as I've suggested that pages ago. I honestly don't know why everybody is so damn hidden on this forum.

 

[Die Hard]

Some of the things you guys have said was to fix the anger issues and think more "positive", I'm already working on that.

I find that hard to believe... See, you can only think more positive if you think less realistic. You're telling me you're actually doing that? Fat chance...

 

[Slickster]

This deepness element that I am talking about, it is powerful enough to trump everything else that we guys view as important traits in a man.

This is a really good point. I believe this is a big (if not the biggest) reason for my successes with women.

I can remember one night I had introduced a new girl friend of mine to my group of friends. At one point all the women had gone off to the other room to talk leaving us guys watching sports or something. I went to get a beer from the fridge and overheard the girls talking about me in the other room. One of the girls was telling my girlfriend that the reason women like me so much is because I'm not afraid to talk about the things that most guys won't. Another girl added that she felt we always had such great conversations together.

I always talk about making genuine connections and seeking out genuine people around here. I really think this is the key. There is no formula and it's impossible to teach or put it into words on an internet forum. It's about stirring up emotions and feelings and getting people to open up about themselves and things that they wouldn't normally share. When that happens connections form because you have both shared parts of yourselves. Part of it is listening but you have to open up yourself to get the ball rolling. Most guys simply can't do that with anyone let alone a chick.

Tenacity, your comments about chicks "thinking you are a player" and "you only think about yourself" are very telling when analyzing your problems getting quality chicks. You can be the most social, outgoing, funny and ambitious guy around. That is all just surface stuff. You need to connect with women on a deeper level than you have been. With your current views on women and the marketplace in general I think it's going to be near impossible for you to do that. OR as I said earlier you just may not have it in you. This is why I've said in the past that you really need to get the hell out of Dodge and go explore the world and travel. I think it would do you, your personality, and your freakin' soul a world of good. You won't make any significant changes to your outlook living in the burbs of Detroit.

P.S. As for sharing pics, etc. I have an immense social circle. I also have a career that has literally put me in contact with 1000's of youth over the past decade. I've shared almost my entire life story here including way too many personal details, thoughts and opinions. I have no interest in posting pics of myself. I've seen a few photos of guys I've met on here in the past but I actually prefer it to be anonymous. I can tell who is genuine or not just from reading and remembering things they have told me in the past. I have no motivation to prove anything thing to anyone here.

If you want to know what I look like I've been told this guy is my doppleganger. Ironically he happens to be one of my favourite musicians.

http://www.indierecordshop.com/blog/images/GLove.jpg
http://www.paysbig.com/files/2514/4854/7383/G-Love-Special-Sauce-2016-northern-lights-theater.jpg

Good luck

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I always talk about making genuine connections and seeking out genuine people around here. I really think this is the key. There is no formula and it's impossible to teach or put it into words on an internet forum. It's about stirring up emotions and feelings and getting people to open up about themselves and things that they wouldn't normally share.

This is KEY right here. This is about being real, genuine, congruent. This is what they really mean when they say BE YOURSELF. Not your "fake self" or your "pretend self" or your "self that is afraid of offending her" self or your "game self." The REAL YOU that wants to get to know the REAL HER.

SO MANY guys are scared shytless and hide behind game, fakeness, layers and layers of fake confidence that is masking deep insecurity that when a REAL HONEST DUDE like SLICKSTER comes around, the girls can't get enough of him.

This takes HUGE amounts of courage, as most guys are TERRIFIED that if they expose their REAL SELVES to any woman, and get REJECTED, it will be DEATH.

But before you can openly and honestly express your REAL SELF, you have to accept and even LOVE your real self.

This takes TONS of work.

BUT, if you are open, honest and LOVE and express your real self, to EVERYBODY, not just girls you want to bang..


...PVZZY MAGNET

 

[Asasione]

Since I know Tenacity will be reading this stuff and thinking WTF. Let me put in an alternate way of thinking about it that you may be able to apply. The ultimate form of the techniques and other ideologies that we learn from C&F, seduction techniques, story telling patterns (making mundane things more interesting through exaggeration, pacing, tonality etc), eliciting values and so on is to be able to do them subconsciously and to incorporate them seamlessly with our REAL personality. It has to be something that comes from a genuine place and has to be authentically you, you shouldn't have to think about it but just do it and that takes years, and that takes a lot of work on yourself and your issues. I'm already seeing you mentioning that you're tailoring your personality to different women and situations, and there goes your problem. You also seem to be transparent to women and they already know what you're all about - just getting laid. The better quality women you're after are just as perceptive and will see through the facade and neither will you be able to maintain the personas you're trying to put out.

You like thinking its positive thinking that many others are encouraging but your supposed realistic view is obvious even to children. You also always try to bring other people into focus talking about MRA and other groups who are seeing similar patterns, forgetting majority of those men are bitter and have a certain world view that is a self fulfilling prophecy. Not to mention majority of them suck with women.

Your focus should be on you and your own improvement and heading towards your greater goals, those MRA guys start having success in their lives doesn't change a damn thing in yours. The main thing you should do is start demanding only the types of women and things you want and reject those women and things that don't meet your standards. You won't die if you don't get laid for a couple months. There have to be some sacrifices and its better doing it now and benefiting for years to come

 

[Tenacity]

I believe this has been a great thread, I'm going to summarize again the things I'm working on as well as additional comments.

#1.) What I'm Working On Currently

- The anger issues and other internal issues

- Zoning in more on the women that I tend to believe are more balanced, and not entertaining the women that I just think are completely messed up or have characteristics that I don't want to tolerate for a long period of time.


#2.) Additional Commentary

In relation to everything you guys are saying about fixing the internal issues in relation to anger, depression, etc., I'm 100% on board with it. Everything else, I'm sorry, it's just either a gross misrepresentation of who I am as a person, the type of women I've been dealing with (now and over the previous 6 years), and the rest is just flat out cartoon shyt.

- A lot of the recommendations you guys are making about "not coming off fake", I already do that. I don't use game. I'm myself, which is basically who I am as a person with a lot of Manosphere related techniques incorporated into my natural personality. Only so much can be communicated via words on a screen, if you guys weren't so steadfast on being anonymous as hell, maybe we can do some networking off of this site and learn more about each other.

- For the 10th time, I don't talk to "low level women". This keeps getting repeated, over and over, I have no idea why?

- I do not believe in the theory of there being a "high quality woman" nor in a "high quality man" in 2016. If you guys disagree, that's fine, we aren't going to 100% agree on everything. I FIRMLY believe that are we are ALL fvcked up on some level, nobody is fvcking "high quality". I believe that what you have with ANY mate you decide to be with, is your own level of bullshyt tolerance. Basically, what bullshyt will you tolerate and what bullshyt will you not tolerate? In the Past, I had no issues tolerating "bullshyt" of a woman having fvcked up finances and more than 1 kid, TODAY, I can't tolerate that bullshyt any longer. However, JUST BECAUSE I'm zoning in on women who have good finances and no more than 1 kid, like I said before, this does NOT make her a "high quality woman". There are still going to be things fvcked up with her that I have to deal with as that's the reality of dealing with any woman.

- Based on this paragraph above, I'm not sure why you guys keep referring to my search as looking for a "high quality woman" when I don't believe any woman is high quality? Name ANY woman (celebrity or non celebrity) and I guarantee I will list out at least 5 things majorly wrong with her.

- About being the Top 5% of men in the country, again, it's like I'm reading a damn movie script which is what I'm referring to with the "cartoon shyt". Minus celebrities, nobody fits this criteria that T.O. has put up here and quite frankly, it's not even REQUIRED. Why do I say that it's not required? Look, I'm black okay and I mainly date black women...there are a LOT of educated, fine, sexy, black women who are currently dating guys who aren't shyt. When I say they aren't shyt, I mean they aren't shyt, they have bad finances and the whole nine yards. So to suggest you have to be JAMES FVCKING BOND to get "better quality women" is just complete bullshyt and I flat out disagree with it.


#3.) However

However, every single thing said about fixing the internal issues I agree with and that's what I'm working on. Listen, I appreciate everything you guys have said, good and bad, the purpose of the Manosphere though is to take all of this information and customize it for your life because nobody here actually KNOWS you in real life.

I also still believe you guys need to stop being so ANONYMOUS. I've offered to do web chats, telephone chats, hell even an email chat, but you guys want to remain under ANONYMOUS usernames and I have no damn idea why? Are you embarrassed to say you are apart of this site? I'm not, to me it's like a fraternity of guys who get together to discuss all sorts of things from women, to marriage, to being a Father, to working out, to building wealth. What are you ashamed of?

The reason I'm all for this push is because it helps to get to KNOW EACH other better. Only so much can be communicated via words on a screen and I think it's completely stupid for us to sit here, communicate with each other often during the week, but not know jack SHYT about each other in real life other than what's put on a screen.

There are tens of thousands of guys registered on this site, imagine how powerful our network could be if we knew each other off of here? We could throw each other job opportunities, meet up in various regions and be ultimate WINGMEN to each other, throw each other women here and there, all types of shyt.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Much value in this thread. Good job wanting to work on yourself Tenacity.

I'll exit this thread with a story:

Last month, a hobo approaches me and asks if I am a lawyer. He continues to tell me that he used to work in Goldman Sachs and lost his job when the market crashed in 2008. He continues that the financial and political systems are corrupt, biased, and unfair. There are investment products for those with $25 million dollar accounts that are guaranteed (by the five largest institutions) rates of returns between 10-12% to further their compounding wealth. And for the $100+ million accounts, guaranteed rates of returns of 15%. The super-wealthy have friends who are the top political and financial figures, thus having access to special licenses or have the abilities to lift restrictions in commercial business to their own benefit. They own the courts as well. Their offspring have access to the best of schools and thus are able to guarantee success (outside of their estate) for their children. And the poor, what do they get ... nothing!

The man went on and on for 15 minutes telling about all the political/financial injustices in this country. I responded with one simple question, "How does this focus help YOU?" As this man continues to focus or blame the market (although he is right!), he wrongs himself by failing to focus on the glaring (financial) problem ... HIM. If he had a genuine intent to effect change upon society, how could he do it as a hobo? First, he would need to work on himself. Build himself up. Work hard. Attain power. Attain assets. Then he might be heard. The man continued to state that he will orchestrate a protest ... yada, yada.

So what is the lesson here. Don't be the hobo. (In case it's misunderstood, I'm referring to a hobo of quality.)

 

[ChrisFloyd]

You are either destined to be great or you are not, and with that come other external things which are of the same quality of yourself.

In other words, no matter how much discussions you participate, how much time you spend on self-improvement etc, if you are a loser, you are always a loser. Most winners feel guilty if they admit that most of their success come not from positive thinking, hard work or sh!t like that. They will bombard you with advice and shaming words. But in the end, not everyone can be CEO. Not everyone can get the best women/men. There have to be losers, so there can be winners.

If you are born to achieve great things, then you will. If you have to ask how or why you can not, then you probably are desiring what is not for you.

So rub one out, get some sleep and forget all about this. Or as you put it better than I do:

Just Fvck Off.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

If you are born to achieve great things, then you will. If you have to ask how or why you can not, then you probably are desiring what is not for you.

I give props to Tenacity for putting his "stuff" out there. That takes balls, humility, and a willingness to change.

Some are born to greatness; others change and actualize greatness. No specific formula (for all) to transcendence ().

 

[Tenacity]

The man went on and on for 15 minutes telling about all the political/financial injustices in this country. I responded with one simple question, "How does this focus help YOU?" As this man continues to focus or blame the market (although he is right!), he wrongs himself by failing to focus on the glaring (financial) problem ... HIM. If he had a genuine intent to effect change upon society, how could he do it as a hobo? First, he would need to work on himself. Build himself up. Work hard. Attain power. Attain assets. Then he might be heard. The man continued to state that he will orchestrate a protest ... yada, yada.

So what is the lesson here. Don't be the hobo. (In case it's misunderstood, I'm referring to a hobo of quality.)

Excellent story, it's just that your solution to that hobo was correct in theory, but as the system gets more manipulated it gets harder to mount up any type of success for people like that. That's not me "whining" either, millions of Americans feel this same way and that's why Bernie Sanders is doing so well right now Legend. There IS something wrong with the financial system in this country and telling people to just "figure out a way to rise up despite it" is just not going to cut it anymore.

There was a time when pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps worked, but when they have taken your bootstraps, taken your boots, and sliced off your hands, how do you build yourself up by your own bootstraps anymore? Again like I said, it's why a Socialist like Bernie Sanders is doing so well, people are waking up to our Global NWO/Fraud/Fascist System. Never before in history has a Socialist been THIS CLOSE to the White House.

Even when we discuss the market of women in relation to dating/relationships, Legend don't let this thread fool you....I'm NOT in the minority on this. There is a reason why so many guys are opting out of marriage, going MGTOW, why the MRA Movement is getting so big, hell even why SoSuave/PUA/The Manosphere was created in the first place. It's because there is something completely FVCKED UP with this market of women. It's easy for you guys to just throw MGTOWs off as just "losers", it's way more complicated than that. There are some losers in the MGTOW Movement, but most of those guys are not losers, they are guys who can see this market CLEARLY (red pill) while most men still cannot clearly see what's going on (blue pill).

 

[Tictac]

@Tenacity

"There was a time when pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps worked, but when they have taken your bootstraps, taken your boots, and sliced off your hands, how do you build yourself up by your own bootstraps anymore? Again like I said, it's why a Socialist like Bernie Sanders is doing so well, people are waking up to our Global NWO/Fraud/Fascist System. Never before in history has a Socialist been THIS CLOSE to the White House."

Both Sanders and Trump are populists more than anything else. And they are touching something out there in voter land - the wish that someone will take care of you and give you what you want - i.e. your mommy.

Sanders isn't a socialist, he's the candy man, promising things that he knows will never happen because there is nowhere near enough money to pay for them or enough legislative support to get them done. People that believe his shtick want to believe, they are children.

Meanwhile, a Trump is a human Grinch shoveling his own brand of bullsh*t, little to none of which will ever happen either. His flock want to believe too.

True believers always get run flat by the people they want in power. It's the price of being an idealist that will wade through rivers of other peoples' blood while wrapping themselves in either nonsense about 'the people' or 'the flag' when all they want is life on easy street paid for by others.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

and on,

and on,

and on, he goes...

LOL.

Like I said before, they really need a face-palm emoticon.

 

[Tenacity]

@Tenacity

"There was a time when pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps worked, but when they have taken your bootstraps, taken your boots, and sliced off your hands, how do you build yourself up by your own bootstraps anymore? Again like I said, it's why a Socialist like Bernie Sanders is doing so well, people are waking up to our Global NWO/Fraud/Fascist System. Never before in history has a Socialist been THIS CLOSE to the White House."

Both Sanders and Trump are populists more than anything else. And they are touching something out there in voter land - the wish that someone will take care of you and give you what you want - i.e. your mommy.

Sanders isn't a socialist, he's the candy man, promising things that he knows will never happen because there is nowhere near enough money to pay for them or enough legislative support to get them done. People that believe his shtick want to believe, they are children.

Meanwhile, a Trump is a human Grinch shoveling his own brand of bullsh*t, little to none of which will ever happen either. His flock want to believe too.

True believers always get run flat by the people they want in power. It's the price of being an idealist that will wade through rivers of other peoples' blood while wrapping themselves in either nonsense about 'the people' or 'the flag' when all they want is life on easy street paid for by others.

I totally agree with you in relation to what a lot of what these guys are pushing could never get passed, especially the stuff Sanders is pushing by wanting to give everybody free college degrees by taxing Wallstreet, or raising taxes to 90% on the "rich".

But my point is that while you guys in this thread have tried to make me out to be some "conspiracy looney toon", I am NOT the only one in this country that thinks something is completely fvcked up with not just the dating market, but also our financial markets, job market, higher education system, political system, etc. I think most of Bernie Sanders supporters know damn well 80% of the stuff he's pushing for can't get passed, but they are voting for him REGARDLESS because they are pissed off with the current RIGGED market and want to do something (anything) to protest against it.

MGTOW is the same way. It's a group of guys that can see the dating relations with women are RIGGED from the beginning (you lose with most women even if you win, if you know what I mean) and they are looking to do something about it. Their way is to opt out of dealing with women altogether. I personally can't do that because I need to GET OFF, but damn if they didn't have that vagina box in between their legs I would have left these stupid pieces of shyt alone YEARS ago.

The reality is that most women are just a pain in the a.ss and bring NO value to your life. But I know, that's not "positive enough" so....seeing as though I'm trying to see the "bright side of things"....let me flash a smile

 

[Tenacity]

Live Your Dream,

You make some good points and trust me I know, I have anger issues lol. I want you guys to continue adding to this thread, I'm going to be a little "quiet" in relation to this thread as I work on the things I listed above. I will have a report and update this thread in about two weeks.

But as mentioned this has been a great thread, there's something for everybody in this thread.

 

[Desdinova]

I also still believe you guys need to stop being so ANONYMOUS. I've offered to do web chats, telephone chats, hell even an email chat, but you guys want to remain under ANONYMOUS usernames and I have no damn idea why?

The reason why I remain anonymous on this site is because I've had problems with stalkers and 5hit in the past. I had to change my username on here due to things that were being relayed to my (ex)wife. It wreaked havoc in my life and I don't need to go through that bull5hit again. There have been many others on here who had to change their usernames due to similar things.

If you wanna chat via skype or some 5hit, I'm all for that. I just can't reveal myself online because I don't need my personal life getting fvcked up again.

 

[LiveFreeX]

The man went on and on for 15 minutes telling about all the political/financial injustices in this country. I responded with one simple question, "How does this focus help YOU?" As this man continues to focus or blame the market (although he is right!), he wrongs himself by failing to focus on the glaring (financial) problem ... HIM. If he had a genuine intent to effect change upon society, how could he do it as a hobo? First, he would need to work on himself. Build himself up. Work hard. Attain power. Attain assets. Then he might be heard. The man continued to state that he will orchestrate a protest ... yada, yada.

Money and women are two entirely different things.

If you want more money, go study something that is in demand, get a job and save money.... easy. If getting quality women were that easy, this site wouldn't even exist.

The hobo and his millions? How to get out of that situation.... hobo should go to a soup kitchen with 5 dollars. Setup a monthly meal plan. Get a job at McD's. Rent a cheap place with social assistance. Work for a year and save 60% of his income, then take a forklift license and bang, hobo finds a job working in the dockyards of some small industrial town.

Hobo is now middle class and in a position to do any education you can find in that small industrial town. Anyone can get anywhere in life with just a little hard work. So the hobo goes about working at his forklift job, which isn't bad mind you... its fun to drive those things around and fairly easy to learn, he is making 5 dollars more an hour, has a small but clean place to live and 3 square meals per day. One day the hobo decides he wants to pursue bigger and better things so he goes to college, makes some friends and learns to code. 4 years later he has a bachelor of computer science but wait, there are no computer jobs in his industrial town. So hobo starts his own company, unfortunately there is no business or interest for this type of thing and his business flounders from the minimal attention. The hobo continues to tell his friends about fun and interesting computing tips and tidbits but they ignore it because it doesn't fit their lives. What must hobo do ? His computer friends in Silicon Valley start to tell him that if he just flies over, there are people literally begging for coders and web designers and he can make 10x his current salary.

Hobo sits down, looks at his small apartment and starts listening to his dockworker friends and co-workers, they tell him that there is nothing for him there and that they have heard from a friend of a friend that he will likely fail. "The grass is not greener dear hobo!!! You must make yourself better in the place you are in!!!". Hobo considers this and goes back to driving forklift to pay the bills and fund his small computer business. Hobo continues on working as a forklift driver and wondering if this is all there is... eventually hobo becomes frustrated, gives up, lashes out... gets into the booze and ends up on the street telling people how hard life is and how ONLY the rich have got the best opportunities. If hobo had just made a SMALL effort to take a trip over to silicon valley, he would be on his way to those millions. I guess even money is location dependent sometimes.

I recommend reading The Alchemist for those who haven't yet.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Money and women are two entirely different things.

If you want more money, go study something that is in demand, get a job and save money.... easy. If getting quality women were that easy, this site wouldn't even exist.

The hobo and his millions? How to get out of that situation.... hobo should go to a soup kitchen with 5 dollars. Setup a monthly meal plan. Get a job at McD's. Rent a cheap place with social assistance. Work for a year and save 60% of his income, then take a forklift license and bang, hobo finds a job working in the dockyards of some small industrial town.

Hobo is now middle class and in a position to do any education you can find in that small industrial town. Anyone can get anywhere in life with just a little hard work. So the hobo goes about working at his forklift job, which isn't bad mind you... its fun to drive those things around and fairly easy to learn, he is making 5 dollars more an hour, has a small but clean place to live and 3 square meals per day. One day the hobo decides he wants to pursue bigger and better things so he goes to college, makes some friends and learns to code. 4 years later he has a bachelor of computer science but wait, there are no computer jobs in his industrial town. So hobo starts his own company, unfortunately there is no business or interest for this type of thing and his business flounders from the minimal attention. The hobo continues to tell his friends about fun and interesting computing tips and tidbits but they ignore it because it doesn't fit their lives. What must hobo do ? His computer friends in Silicon Valley start to tell him that if he just flies over, there are people literally begging for coders and web designers and he can make 10x his current salary.

Hobo sits down, looks at his small apartment and starts listening to his dockworker friends and co-workers, they tell him that there is nothing for him there and that they have heard from a friend of a friend that he will likely fail. "The grass is not greener dear hobo!!! You must make yourself better in the place you are in!!!". Hobo considers this and goes back to driving forklift to pay the bills and fund his small computer business. Hobo continues on working as a forklift driver and wondering if this is all there is... eventually hobo becomes frustrated, gives up, lashes out... gets into the booze and ends up on the street telling people how hard life is and how ONLY the rich have got the best opportunities. If hobo had just made a SMALL effort to take a trip over to silicon valley, he would be on his way to those millions. I guess even money is location dependent sometimes.

I recommend reading The Alchemist for those who haven't yet.

That's one particular hobo. This particular hobo worked at Goldman Sachs. So he could simply change his focus and instead being so painfully distracted by the "problems" he feels exist in society, to focus on his goals and objectives to return to be a productive member of society.

This particular guy spent all this time obsessing over these problems figuring how it all tiies together and just is setting back watching life pass him by!

 

[Tenacity]

Wanted to update this thread like I promised I would.

Listen, right now it's best that I take about 3 months off from women right now. I'm starting it today, the weekend of Valentine's Day, mainly to save myself money because I'm not spending a damn thing this weekend on anybody. I'm going GHOST on every chick I've been talking to starting today.

Tried my little experiment and these women are all turning out to be the same thing, very fickle with just fvcked up personalities/attitudes. At least my Chick 1 and Chick 2's I was able to have a good damn time with for goodness sakes!

I mean I'm not even having a good damn time with these women, any "joke" or "light-heartedness" is met with all types of skepticism, stuck up in the air "boogie-ness", and damn if I hear another "I just got saved yesterday so I'm a CHRISTIAN woman, thus you have to treat me like QUEEN Elizabeth" type of damn statement from a woman I'm going to scream!!

Every woman I get with there is a major damn issue with her, let me run them by you once again:

- Chick One: Has weight issues.

- Chick Two: Has financial issues and/or too many kids.

- Chick Three: Fickle as fvck, mixed signals, she loves me at 2:00, hates me at 3:00, loves me again at 4:00, hates me again at 6.

- Chick Four: Same as Chick Three but just add a very high maintenance type of personality to her, she might also be having financial issues or have too many kids.

Look I have restructuring going on in my career right now, I'm also still battling whatever has been going on in my stomach right now as well. I don't have fvcking time to keep dealing with the stress of these stupid a.ss women. I'm done.

3 months time off.

In May I will come back and bump this thread with a new focus, new direction, etc. I might just be in a very bad part of the country. I'm in Clinton Township, Michigan but this is a suburb of metro Detroit, so I'm 20 - 40 minutes away from all of the major metros like Troy, Rochester, Bloomfield, etc. So I'm meeting these women all over, the problem I think is that a lot of people MY AGE have left Michigan and are in the South.

A geographical change might be needed, but I know god damn well this recurring 6 year issue of continuing to only get the SAME four types of women, is not coming from me. Contrary to popular belief I'm not the only "constant" in this situation, the other constant is the metro Detroit, Michigan market.

 

[Slickster]

Just last night I was out for beer with the boys at a random venue. Table next to us sits down two very attractive younger women. (7 and an 8 for those keeping score)

As the night went on the drinks went down and we eventually started talking to them. They were both single, very cool and very receptive to us. Both had good jobs, no kids, no obvious attitude of any kind. Good laughs and very smart senses of humour. Single buddies exchange numbers and I'm hoping to see those girls again. They were very fun to hang with.

It's like shootin' fish in a barrel.

Get outta Dodge man!