I Have Anger Problems/I Don't Know What To Do

[guru1000]

I read your thread on women being penny stocks witch basically states your belief in women having low value. Yet we're currently in a thread where you're increasing their value by investing your own emotion (anger) when youre disappointed with your relationship outcomes. Why?

Yup, this is it in a nutshell. Akin to investing into a penny stock, and then going apeshvt when you lose your investment.

I remember Tenacity once asked, " Why should I invest my time into something/somebody and not have expectations in return?" Logical question. Why invest and have no reciprocation? That's an improvident investment, right?

The answer is so you don't frustrate if it doesn't work out. By removing all expectations, your emotions (and happiness) are no longer controlled by and subject to outside influence. A very powerful place to be.

In Tenacity's defense, all this "qualify, qualify, qualify and you will find your unicorn" talk does increase his expectations. So I can understand his counter-analogy of "all women are penny stocks" to lower expectations. It's a push/pull, push/pull, push/pull--followed by--the boiling frog syndrome as he jumps out of the boiling water (this thread). Ideally, though, one could act/invest but not expect.

 

[Tenacity]

I appreciate the responses you guys are making, but I think one of the main issues is that I don't have an "issue", but not having an "issue" is further complicating the issues. What do I mean?

In a nutshell, my anger issues are a result of waking up to a lot of the realities of the world we are dealing with. I'm just in general pissed off because I was sold a bill of goods over a number of things in life:

- I was told to go to school, get a degree, and you would come out with all of these significant job offers waiting for you. Well, I have four degrees with 10 years of experience, and I'm not getting these $200,000 a year or $150,000 a year job offers.

- I was told by my church that God is going to watch over you, protect you, etc. etc. Then I watch how people around me fall, get fvcked over by the system, and how more and more you understand the "system" that we live in....you realize that the only "god" that truly has control is the "god" known as Big Business, Big Government, Big Police/Military State, Central Bankers and Big Media. We have no fvcking power. But these church motherfvckers continue to LIE in order to get your 10%.

- I was told that women want a man with his shyt together, a provider, a good man, etc., etc., only to grow up watching them fvck thugs, bums, murderers, and losers. Then to get into my late 20's/early 30's today, and while I can get LAID, just about every chick I'm fvcking comes from this background of fvcking thugs, bums, murderers and losers...which makes me question, is this bytch fvcking me because she LIKES me, or is there some sort of agenda here?? The bytch didn't want me THEN, you wanted Tyrone the THUG...why do you want me now bytch??

- I was told that if you just "set your mind to it", you can achieve it. Well, isn't that a load of bullshyt. Our American free market system runs on capital and networks, if you know the right people and have the right levels of capital, you can pretty much "set your mind" to something and accomplish it for the most part. Without having said resources and networks, you are going to be a VICTIM to the system at large. This is why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are doing so well right now. The people in this country have woken the fvck up.

My issues are coming from the fact that I don't have an "issue", they are coming from seeing the RED PILL realities of how FVCKED UP this world is in every way....and how I was fvcking lied to about this world in every way.

* Women are majority pieces of shyt
* Most men are untrustworthy/lying pieces of shyt
* The job market is fvcked up
* Cost of living is going up
* Passive investment vehicles are fvcked up
* Culture is fvcked up

I'm pissed off......and there's no damn counselor that's going to solve this shyt. I have to eventually get to the point of "accepting" this shyt, and I don't think that's coming anytime soon. So I guess I will continue to occassionly rant, vent, piss, and moan like I have been doing over the previous couple of years.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Fck Tenacity if you have 4 degrees pal I can get you a job in the country of your choice.

 

[Tictac]

"How do I know the ways of all things at the beginning? I look inside myself and see what is within me."
Lao Tzu

I'm pissed off......and there's no damn counselor that's going to solve this shyt. I have to eventually get to the point of "accepting" this shyt, and I don't think that's coming anytime soon. So I guess I will continue to occassionly rant, vent, piss, and moan like I have been doing over the previous couple of years.

So you want it this way.

 

[guru1000]

I was told to go to school, get a degree, and you would come out with all of these significant job offers waiting for you. Well, I have four degrees with 10 years of experience, and I'm not getting these $200,000 a year or $150,000 a year job offers.

Who told you this?

- I was told by my church that God is going to watch over you, protect you, etc. etc. Then I watch how people around me fall, get fvcked over by the system, and how more and more you understand the "system" that we live in.

When you were a kid, did you not enjoy and appreciate the "tooth fairy." I did. I have grown up since and understand it's latent purpose. But I'm not angry about it.

...you realize that the only "god" that truly has control is the "god" known as Big Business, Big Government, Big Police/Military State, Central Bankers and Big Media.

We have no fvcking power.

Zero? Absolutely no power? Can you think of any individual today or in history (who started with nothing) and exacted change in government policy or case law?

- I was told that women want a man with his shyt together, a provider, a good man, etc., etc., only to grow up watching them fvck thugs, bums, murderers, and losers. Then to get into my late 20's/early 30's today, and while I can get LAID, just about every chick I'm fvcking comes from this background of fvcking thugs, bums, murderers and losers...

You're dating garbage, no pun intended. This is a choice.

I was told that if you just "set your mind to it", you can achieve it. Well, isn't that a load of bullshyt. Our American free market system runs on capital and networks, if you know the right people and have the right levels of capital, you can pretty much "set your mind" to something and accomplish it for the most part. Without having said resources and networks, you are going to be a VICTIM to the system at large.

Does this hold true for everyone. Can you think of any individual today or in history who started with no resources and no networks, and accomplished greatly? Just one individual? Perhaps, qualify your argument by stating:

"Without resources and networks, it becomes increasingly difficult to accomplish greatly."

Women are majority pieces of shyt

Have you met all women to assert this? Qualify to "Some."

Most men are untrustworthy/lying pieces of shyt

Have you met most men to assert this? Qualify to "Some."

The job market is fvcked up

Not sure what this means.

Cost of living is going up

You mean inflation. Yup.

Passive investment vehicles are fvcked up

Agreed.

Culture is fvcked up

Agreed.

So I guess I will continue to occassionly rant, vent, piss, and moan like I have been doing over the previous couple of years.

So you want to remain angry and have other posters waste their time creating 20-page threads on your behalf?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Hey bro. Most people with $150k-$200k jobs did work their way up to it over the years, no one single degree would let someone plop in and have that much money. Why are you so against earning your way up the ladder?

 

[zekko]

In a nutshell, my anger issues are a result of waking up to a lot of the realities of the world we are dealing with. I'm just in general pissed off because I was sold a bill of goods over a number of things in life.

Boo hoo hoo, the red pill is so hard to swallow. I was told the same things that you were, but I'm not bitter. I'm thankful for what I have. You need to improve your attitude.

 

[guru1000]

Zekko, that's because you grew up. Less emotional outbursts come with maturity.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

the red pill is so hard to swallow.

The problem with the "red pill" is it's extremely easy to use an excuse, (the world is corrupt, women are evil, etc) rather than a motivating factor.

The real "pill" that is "hard to swallow" is the idea that we, as men, are not nearly as AWESOME as we think we are.

And the ONLY WAY to improve our results is to honestly assess our game and IMPROVE IT.

It's all too easy to call yourself "red pill" so you can blame the world.

 

[Tenacity]

I understand that I've become jaded and my attitude/outlook on "the world" today at 32 isn't the same as it was at 22. At 22 I was a broke, young, partying, college kid who still had not FULLY gone out on my own yet.

Now being out here in the world and seeing all there is to see, I don't have this upbeat, optimistic view of the future like I used to have. And when I say future, I'm mean in terms of economics, the country as a whole, WOMEN, the whole damn nine yards.

So you want to remain angry and have other posters waste their time creating 20-page threads on your behalf?

I've been having a discussion with you guys in this thread about the things that are pissing me off. Most of the responses have just been: "cheer up buckaroo, keeping working on yourself and know there's light at the end of the tunnel!"

As I said before, I don't know what the fvck else there is for me to "work on". It further pisses me off when I meet new chicks and they always ask, "Wow, you are a great guy, why are you single? Why aren't you married? How could you be on the market?" Bytch I'm on the market because most of you are pieces of shyt, come to the table with baggage from thugs (thug babies), and are only truly good for a nut. That's why the fvck I'm single.

I'm stuck in my current position in terms of my career, I want to make $150k - $200k a year, but can't get into any FVCKING door to do that. But yet stupid idiots who can barely spell their own damn name properly, not just get interviews....but get offers....because they are the cousin to the Hiring Manager. I have to sit on the telephone and be "telephone screen interviewed" by dumb a.ss blondes or weave wearing black chicks who can't even spell the name of the company they work for, nor even know any technical information on WTF the company even does.

Urghhhhhhhh

 

[guru1000]

Tenacity, at a young age, I realized I was not the conformity type: I was not the type to have a boss. You my friend, are a free thinker, and have an entrepreneurial mind. Have you ever thought about self-employment?

Don't counter with you need capital to be self-employed. You have a couple guys on this site like me and ZTime and a few others, as well as the tens of thousands across the globe that have started businesses with zero to little capital. You can begin P/T, low cost: virtual secretary, home office and build over time.

You're a business loan specialist. Many opportunities for consulting businesses within the finance arena. Hell, I wish somebody came to me five years ago and showed me how to structure my credit and infrastructure to maximize funding. And you are not limited to MI; you can transact anywhere you like, such as NY .

 

[bruno-ex-sex-addict]

I do, they are bad, and they are all mainly coming from my dealings with women.

They say the AFC is the "frustrated" chump, but his frustrations are usually related to not getting laid. Those aren't my frustrations, my frustrations are in relation to the QUALITY of the god damn relationships I keep getting and just being still pissed off with women from my early interactions with them.

#1.) Relationship Quality

I'm stuck on a fvcking merry-go-round. Every single chick I get, there's always a major fvcking problem with her. Either she has weight issues to the point of when she's naked I get turned off, or the bytch is a gold-digger and constantly tries to get me to give her money, or the chick has financial issues which means she has to ask me to help pay her $30 Metro PCS bill, or the chick is just flat out fickle as hell and you don't know if she's going OR coming.

Listen, I've tried to keep a positive attitude and just keep "spinning plates" of these chicks, I can't fvcking do it anymore. I'm going insane here and I'm afraid that I'm going to SNAP. I'm being honest. I have been flat out going off on women for years now and when I go off, I GO THE FVCK OFF. I haven't physically hit anybody (YET), but I'm cursing her out and doing all types of verbal abusive shyt. So you can say I'm a verbal abuser.


#2.) Early Interactions

In addition to the above, I'm sorry, but I'm still pissed off based on what happened to me during my actual "AFC" days in high school and my very early 20's.

I'm black so the majority of women I deal with and have dealt with are black women, okay? And back then the black women would pick flat out losers, bums and thugs over me because I "spoke like a whiteboy and was too smart".

STILL TO THIS DAY, when I think about that shyt, it pisses me the fvck off when I think about how fvcked up the black community is and how fvcked up black men are in general, and how these stupid bytches helped to create that.

One minute, it's we need black men to get their shyt together, then the next minute, the stupid bytch is deliberating picking a DOPE DEALER over the black dude on his way to fvcking college? How the fvck does that make sense??


I'm About To SNAP

Listen, I'm worried about myself, okay? I have been going off on women and verbally abusing them for at least 5 years straight now, off and on. IF I don't do something quick, I'm afraid the next step is I'm about to physically assault one of them and then I'll be in jail, having worked my a.ss off from nothing and have it all thrown away in an instant.

So, in a way, I'm reaching out for help here. I have tried talking to counselors and all they do is provide bullshyt Walt Disney like advice that I get nothing out of. None of the blue pill guys in my social circle can assist, tried talking to them and nobody even comprehends WTF I'm going through because they are all like, if you are getting laid, why do you care about all this other stuff?

I don't know what to do but if I don't do something, my life is going to get fvcked up.

Hi Tenacity,

The personality and the behavior of women that you attract and end up hooking up with very likely mirror the personality and the behavior that you display in front of them. If I was you, I would redirect my focus from picking up women to following my true passions in life. I suggest that you invest some time and efforts in identifying what your true passions are. Once you've identified them, simply commit to fulfilling them. As a result, keeping yourself busy by pursuing your top passions will make you so happy, fulfilled and at peace with yourself that meeting the right kind of woman will naturally fall into place since you'll come across that much more naturally attractive.

Bruno

 

[CMNILS87]

ANGER IS A SECONDARY EMOTION. When you yourself cannot control your primary emotion such as frustration, anxiety, patience, jealousy.....ANGER soon follows.

The inability to control your primary emotions and always end up at anger is.....ding ding ding
"IMMATURITY". You're immature and don't know how to control your emotions. I literally had a seminar by Tom Pomeranz 2 days ago tslking exactly about stuff like this. He's a behaviorist that's been practicing for 40 some odd years. Look up his stuff.

 

[bruno-ex-sex-addict]

ANGER IS A SECONDARY EMOTION. When you yourself cannot control your primary emotion such as frustration, anxiety, patience, jealousy.....ANGER soon follows.

The inability to control your primary emotions and always end up at anger is.....ding ding ding
"IMMATURITY". You're immature and don't know how to control your emotions. I literally had a seminar by Tom Pomeranz 2 days ago tslking exactly about stuff like this. He's a behaviorist that's been practicing for 40 some odd years. Look up his stuff.

Yes, I agree with you. The lack or the inability of emotional regulation appears to be the main cause of many mental disorders based on what I've learned about borderline personality disorder that I got stuck in. Hence some psychologists like to call borderline personality disorder an emotionally unstable personality disorder.

On that note, I would recommend that Tenacity checks out Shari Schreiber that's one of the most well-known experts on borderline personality disorder. He can either directly phone her up and have a free consultation with her at http://gettinbetter.com/contact.html or post a question at her website's friendly forum at http://gettinbetter.com/forum.html.

Bruno

 

[Tenacity]

Tenacity, at a young age, I realized I was not the conformity type: I was not the type to have a boss. You my friend, are a free thinker, and have an entrepreneurial mind. Have you ever thought about self-employment?

Don't counter with you need capital to be self-employed. You have a couple guys on this site like me and ZTime and a few others, as well as the tens of thousands across the globe that have started businesses with zero to little capital. You can begin P/T, low cost: virtual secretary, home office and build over time.

You're a business loan specialist. Many opportunities for consulting businesses within the finance arena. Hell, I wish somebody came to me five years ago and showed me how to structure my credit and infrastructure to maximize funding. And you are not limited to MI; you can transact anywhere you like, such as NY .

Technically, I've been self-employed for the previous 10 years. Being in professional sales, the bulk of your compensation is commission which has no cap on it. I am presently looking for other opportunities to get into the $150k and over a year range.

Hi Tenacity,

The personality and the behavior of women that you attract and end up hooking up with very likely mirror the personality and the behavior that you display in front of them. If I was you, I would redirect my focus from picking up women to following my true passions in life. I suggest that you invest some time and efforts in identifying what your true passions are. Once you've identified them, simply commit to fulfilling them. As a result, keeping yourself busy by pursuing your top passions will make you so happy, fulfilled and at peace with yourself that meeting the right kind of woman will naturally fall into place since you'll come across that much more naturally attractive.

Bruno

I already chase my passions in life. My career is my passion, working out is my passion, investing is my passion and watching UFC (and WWE from time to time) is my passion. I'm already doing that.

The market of women is just piss poor, it's piss poor to the point that I have to just reduce my standards down in terms of "the main girl" I'm looking for. The reality is that I might have to settle with a chick who has 1 kid already, but has everything else I want. After all, I've actually FOUND chicks like this (which are the best of the bunch that I attract).

Am I perfect? No. Are there things I can still work on? Yes.

But I know damn well you don't have to be flawless in order to get the type of woman I listed out. The reason I'm not finding that woman is because she is VERY RARE in this very FVCKED UP market of women.

ANGER IS A SECONDARY EMOTION. When you yourself cannot control your primary emotion such as frustration, anxiety, patience, jealousy.....ANGER soon follows.

The inability to control your primary emotions and always end up at anger is.....ding ding ding
"IMMATURITY". You're immature and don't know how to control your emotions. I literally had a seminar by Tom Pomeranz 2 days ago tslking exactly about stuff like this. He's a behaviorist that's been practicing for 40 some odd years. Look up his stuff.

I don't know, I disagree with you on this. For example, if Guru slapped you in the face, are you telling me that you wouldn't get angry naturally? And if you were to get angry naturally, are you saying that makes someone immature?

To me immaturity is tied to Men who don't take care of their basic responsibilities in life and don't take care of business period. I don't see anger as immaturity.

The reason this thread has been so controversial, is because one side believes that you can get whatever you want from this market of women, if you just become this super, duper, high quality male. The other side (the one I stand on), number one doesn't believe that a super, duper high quality male even exists....then number two, I take into account the changing cultural dynamics of our market of women v.s. that of 50 years ago.

I don't think you would have needed a Manosphere 50 years ago, why? Because even though you still had a lot of men who might be what is considered "AFC" or "pvssy", what you DIDN'T have was a feminist dominated female market. Women were still women. Women were still supportive. Women weren't as manipulative. Women still believed in families and supporting their husbands. Women weren't as gold-diggerish.

We are operating in a different market and I'm shocked as to why I'm one of the few on this site (judging by the responses in this thread) that see this. Every problem we have with women today comes from this very same market issue:

- Women being gold-diggers comes from it
- Women being flakey comes from it
- Women divorcing you and seeking HALF w/ alimony comes from it
- Women using men for free dates comes from it
- Women picking thugs, bums and losers comes from it

- Women making babies from thugs and losers, THEN expecting the "good man" to take care of the babies comes from it

- A woman's nasty attitude comes from it

- Women believing they are "never wrong" comes from it

- Women believing they can GAIN 200 LBS and you must still love her, comes from it

Shall I continue?

 

[Tictac]

why I'm one of the few on this site (judging by the responses in this thread) that see this.

Because you're the only one that 'sees' it.

But that makes everybody else wrong.

LOL

 

[Tenacity]

Because you're the only one that 'sees' it.

But that makes everybody else wrong.

LOL

You know Peter Schiff was one of the only people that seen the 2008 crash coming. We have video of literally everybody from CNBC laughing Schiff out of the building when he was saying the crash was coming.

You can't possibly be making the argument TicTac, that because EVERYBODY is saying something is true, that means it's true? I just gave you the Schiff example, would you like me to give you 10 - 20 more examples over the course of history when "EVERYBODY" was wrong?

Hell, just about every single successful business venture had "EVERYBODY" saying how stupid the idea and how stupid the entrepreneur was for believing in it.........that is....until the business was started and succeeded.

 

[Tictac]

You know Peter Schiff was one of the only people that seen the 2008 crash coming. We have video of literally everybody from CNBC laughing Schiff out of the building when he was saying the crash was coming.

You can't possibly be making the argument TicTac, that because EVERYBODY is saying something is true, that means it's true? I just gave you the Schiff example, would you like me to give you 10 - 20 more examples over the course of history when "EVERYBODY" was wrong?

Hell, just about every single successful business venture had "EVERYBODY" saying how stupid the idea and how stupid the entrepreneur was for believing in it.........that is....until the business was started and succeeded.

I'm not sure. I'm used to running against the tide. It's been a big part of my success in life.

But I'm not the on one here that's borderline postal twice a month. That would be you.

What you're doing ought to work. How's that going for you?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

You can't possibly be making the argument TicTac, that because EVERYBODY is saying something is true, that means it's true? I just gave you the Schiff example, would you like me to give you 10 - 20 more examples over the course of history when "EVERYBODY" was wrong?

I think everybody should just give up and agree with Tenacity.

At the young age of 32, he's as alpha as any human can ever be. Therefore, if he can't find dream girls, they don't exist.

(But just as a head's up, this forum is for SELF IMPROVEMENT and how to IMPROVE YOUR SUCCESS with women. Why are you here if that is impossible?)

 

[Tenacity]

I'm not sure. I'm used to running against the tide. It's been a big part of my success in life.

But I'm not the on one here that's borderline postal twice a month. That would be you.

What you're doing ought to work. How's that going for you?

Well, TicTac you are confusing me here. One minute you make a comment referencing how "everybody" is saying something, so that MUST make it true, then you talk about how you always run against the tide?

In terms of "working"....depends on how you define "working". Am I getting laid? Yep. Am I getting consistent new dates? Yep. Am I spinning plates? Yep.

Have I found the ONE GIRL THAT I'VE been looking for to settle down with? Hell no.