"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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We all want happiness right, but what if you get to the point that putting in the effort is only destroying you. To the point that putting in the effort seems meaningless. That it is more destroying you that it will ever make you happy.

It seems better to throw and the towel, kick back and see what comes down the road.

What is your choice right now, still fighting or kicking back?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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My reading/interpretation follows.

You are saying to us that "putting in the effort" is destroying you. I read that as meaning that you are working with a big imbalance in yourself, which has to be addressed before any "happiness" can be enjoyed.

I think you got it right, if effort becomes such a big deal, kick back and throw in the towel. Your effort is not coming from the right place, so it cannot really win through to any realization of happiness.

Effort has to come from a balanced, happy place to start with. Otherwise it remains unhappy and imbalanced. Until you can find a way to put in 'happy effort', it seems wise to stop putting in effort. You have something to sort out that is underlying/driving your 'effort' but is a fundamental wrinkle in your energetic structure. That wrinkle is causing you pain. It has to be addressed before anything more can be done. Relaxation and attempting to gain awareness would be the recommended way, in my 'umble opinion.
 

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ucde said:
My reading/interpretation follows.

You are saying to us that "putting in the effort" is destroying you. I read that as meaning that you are working with a big imbalance in yourself, which has to be addressed before any "happiness" can be enjoyed.

I think you got it right, if effort becomes such a big deal, kick back and throw in the towel. Your effort is not coming from the right place, so it cannot really win through to any realization of happiness.

Effort has to come from a balanced, happy place to start with. Otherwise it remains unhappy and imbalanced. Until you can find a way to put in 'happy effort', it seems wise to stop putting in effort. You have something to sort out that is underlying/driving your 'effort' but is a fundamental wrinkle in your energetic structure. That wrinkle is causing you pain. It has to be addressed before anything more can be done. Relaxation and attempting to gain awareness would be the recommended way, in my 'umble opinion.
Your humble opinion is better than any moderator of this forum could have put it, thank you.
 

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To follow up on my response about moderators and i am talking about Nismo-9? in particular.

That guy, nismo. Seems to me like true AFC that got to moderator status by being nothing more than a keyboard-hero. And is now talking **** like "this and that" _case closed_ while there is nothing useful to take from what he actually posted. It is sickening, and therefor i say it is not about your status it is only about the quality of your every thread or response you post. And this guy 'ucde' has responded with quality that no other moderator is probably able to.
 

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LuckyStrike88 said:
We all want happiness right, but what if you get to the point that putting in the effort is only destroying you. To the point that putting in the effort seems meaningless. That it is more destroying you that it will ever make you happy.

It seems better to throw and the towel, kick back and see what comes down the road.

What is your choice right now, still fighting or kicking back?
You cannot give up or throw in the towel until you have mastered the game,after that getting pussi is the least of your worries which is why there's so many old fukrs on here like guru1000 trying to hang around at 50 yrs old.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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loco said:
You cannot give up or throw in the towel until you have mastered the game,after that getting pussi is the least of your worries which is why there's so many old fukrs on here like guru1000 trying to hang around at 50 yrs old.
Yes i understand what you mean about not giving up, but what i am actually thinking about is about throwing in the towel being useful at some point. The more you invest the more you want back, your happiness is determined by what you think is enough and are happy with. When you invest and insane amount of effort and time and end up with a 6 or even a 7, will you be happy?

You might have been the happiest guy in the world had you not invested at all.

About the guru1000's you are talking about, yes they are sickening. And they should just **** off and stop trying to act all wise while not having the success they should have big-talking in the way they do.
 

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LuckyStrike88 said:
Yes i understand what you mean about not giving up, but what i am actually thinking about is about throwing in the towel being useful at some point. The more you invest the more you want back, your happiness is determined by what you think is enough and are happy with. When you invest and insane amount of effort and time and end up with a 6 or even a 7, will you be happy?

You might have been the happiest guy in the world had you not invested at all.

About the guru1000's you are talking about, yes they are sickening. And they should just **** off and stop trying to act all wise while not having the success they should have big-talking in the way they do.

You have to understand that the question you are asking can only be answered by you,so do you think that maybe you'd be happier if you were to end up with a 6 or 7 given the time you've invested or end up a bachelor but let's say with a great career with the time you would have wasted?

A Lot of the guys here are concerned about the quality of women they end up with,but really to someone as old as guru1000 the 9's and 10's he claims to get are probably your 6 and 7's being that these guys are so old.
 

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LuckyStrike88 said:
what if you get to the point that putting in the effort is only destroying you. To the point that putting in the effort seems meaningless. That it is more destroying you that it will ever make you happy.
The mindset is flawed because it seems like happiness must be attained by some outside result. You have to be happy along the way othrwise yes, the journey becomes a struggle, and sometimes a painful one. Happiness is not a destination, it's a means of transportation. You have to be happy whilst still setting and reaching your goals. Giving up is a protection mechanism because you associate the search with pain, and the goal with happiness.


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You might have been the happiest guy in the world had you not invested at all.
Yes, because the guy's state of mind was right from the beginning. If it's not, the saying "a pessimist is never disappointed" comes to mind. Don't be one.
 

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Loco and LuckyStrike: So you got your disparaging remarks off your chest. Good. Shall we now work unilaterally and constructively to help men become better men or continue this juvenility?
 

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One of the hardest parts of life is deciding whether to walk away or try harder... Follow your instincts bro
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LuckyStrike88 said:
To follow up on my response about moderators and i am talking about Nismo-9? in particular.

That guy, nismo. Seems to me like true AFC that got to moderator status by being nothing more than a keyboard-hero. And is now talking **** like "this and that" _case closed_ while there is nothing useful to take from what he actually posted. It is sickening, and therefor i say it is not about your status it is only about the quality of your every thread or response you post. And this guy 'ucde' has responded with quality that no other moderator is probably able to.
Nothing useful comes from you sharing your opinion of Nismo either. Nor will anything useful come of me sharing my opinion about your attitude, so I will keep it to myself..
 

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oh my god these kids are phucking completely and hopelessly braindead.

flatline. wow.
 
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