"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have a hot submissive gf that cooks and cleans

captain55

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
What kind of annoying **** are you talking about..
 

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Unfortunately in Thursday and age single income households can't work, the cost of living is too high.
As much as I would love a stay it home wife I can't afford it.

Ok, i Suggest you sit down with your girl and talk it over with her
What you want in the relationship
 

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What kind of annoying **** are you talking about..
Blows me up 24/7 when I’m out... texts me asking where I am when I’m literally taking a piss downstairs. Has no friends or life outside of me. Gives me **** if I go out with a friend more than one night a week. Needs to constantly be with me 24/7.
 

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Blows me up 24/7 when I’m out... texts me asking where I am when I’m literally taking a piss downstairs. Has no friends or life outside of me. Gives me **** if I go out with a friend more than one night a week. Needs to constantly be with me 24/7.
I think she is too much invested in you and don't want you cheating her in any way.
I think you should talk to her about this and then see if there is any change in behaviour.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
This set up is a dream come true. Just increase your income and gently but firmly start training her to curb the clinginess. Can train that into so many other traits that would support you getting more income. Emotional support traits. One day she will be embarassed she ever acted so clingy instead of supportive.

One more thing, for your interest on what's being posted on WGTOW pages....let me go find it and screenshot and post it here.....for your perusal and thoughts on the different viewpoint....
 

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
I was going to post a screenshot like I wrote about within the last half hour but just scrolling through all that criminal abuse to get to the one thoughtful kernel made me nauseous.
Basically, it said something to the effect of 'do men think we're stupid to be submissive, have secs anytime-any mood, be the only participant cooking, cleaning and still work like he has to work...................but he never submits, never cooks and never cleans?

Increase your income, captain55 and get good at training her.

Don't lose this one, come on, I never get to read about these ideal relationships in the whole past year I've been reading and watching and consuming manosphere online stuff and books. I'm always amazed I still don't see visual examples of submissive women with these influencers. That would be powerful examples.
 

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No woman and no relationship will be picture perfect, everything comes with a prize. She can't be your perfect housewife and still do the career thing, that's as rare as finding the perfect alpha and stable provider in the same guy. So it's up to you to ask yourself if you can live with her downsides? From the sound of it, you're not compatible over the core values.
Neediness is such a universally big turn-off so i understand your frustration, it's repulsive.
Her clinginess stems from insecurity and not having a life of her own. How she will get a life i don't know other than you setting an example by your actions living your life and encouraging her in the direction you want.

This assumes she will respect your concerns and will want to work on herself even by going to therapy. If she's not open to that i would just walk sooner rather than later because this comes from underlying issues and she needs to deal with them herself.
 

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Guys I am being perfectly honest. I want to sleep with as many hot young women as possible. I don’t want to be pounding the same ass forever though. I want her there for me, maybe 3-4 times a week when I’m horny and to travel on trips with me, while I go out and live my life.
 

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Guys I am being perfectly honest. I want to sleep with as many hot young women as possible. I don’t want to be pounding the same ass forever though. I want her there for me, maybe 3-4 times a week when I’m horny and to travel on trips with me, while I go out and live my life.
So she is right always keeping check on you :p
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
Does she do anal?
 

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Guys I am being perfectly honest. I want to sleep with as many hot young women as possible. I don’t want to be pounding the same ass forever though. I want her there for me, maybe 3-4 times a week when I’m horny and to travel on trips with me, while I go out and live my life.
Drop the frequency to 1-2x week will help. When seeing a women more than that the time spent together is interpreted as more a ‘relationship.’ Sounds like this one has co-dependency tendencies. Encourage her interests, build her up, leave her better than you found her.
 

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.
Why is this an issue? This is good
 

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2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.
If she's not the kind of girl you want, talk to her about it. It's the best way of handling things.
Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****?
Some would say you do;)
But if it bothers you enough to post here, you know what to do, man!
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DEEZEDBRAH

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Pretty much ideal for a Don Juan. Gives me unlimited sex, cooks, cleans, fine as ****, not a gold digger she rarely asks me to buy her stuff. My only two issues

1. she has no real drive or ambition to make money. She’s been unemployed 6 months after leaving her job and doesn’t want to do anything to better herself.

2. she drives me ****ing nuts. Blows my phone up 24/7. Argues over stupid ****. Sometimes I wonder if I would seriously rather be with the average promiscuous feminist most guys on here complain about

I want a chick that makes some money so she can pitch in. I want a chick that lets me have a life and isn’t attached to me 24/7 who I see maybe 4-5 days a week. Not someone I have to spend every night with.

Am I acting like a whiny little ungreatful *****? Or would this type of situation drive any guy nuts? We are in our late 20’s. She is a sweet girl and I have it pretty good, lots of perks and don’t want to hurt her....I don’t want to give up the amazing constant sex but she is legit driving me nuts every other day with her annoying ****
reign her in.

David Deangelo suggests books on how to train dogs. Srs
 

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This sounds like transactional sex. She wants a place to live and bangs you to get you hooked.

a normal chick would have her own life and wouldn’t blow up your phone 24/7. The situation could get even more toxic as she sits around and you don’t kick her out, signaling to her that you are ok with the nagging.

you have to ask yourself, do I need the puzzy this bad? It’s the only thing she has to offer

no relationship is perfect. If she were making 6 figures and denying you sex, you’d still be complaining. Have to figure out if, in the long run, you’re willing to put up with bad behavior to get laid on the reg.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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