"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have a date... but only as friends!!!

thenameless

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Well I met this girl on a band tour in France and things went really well between us. I thought we had some chemistry. She actualy started hanging around with me rather than the other way round. It has been a couple of weeks since we got home and she has been away again. I waited until she got back and today asked her if she wanted to go to london. She said she would but made a point of it being as friends... She also asked if I invited anyone else to which the answer was obviously no. Other than that she sounded quite exited about seeing me. I really dont know where this leaves things. Should I just leave it and move on or could I change things round? Things seemed to really work between us while we were away... I should have asked her out then but I bottled it!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jeffthechef

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first lesson: If she makes a point to make anything "just as friends"...she's trying to warn you now that sh'es not interested so you dont commit suicide when you finally realize she's not interested.

Second lesson: Get any girl's number when you first meet them. So you don't have any problems/excuses for not getting it later on. And if you forget or some stupid ****, get it within the first week.and get the outing within the first 2 weeks...work fast or else you'll just have more problems arise

Third lesson: why limit yourself to an option? Why do you have to reject her or try and change things around?...if you ever reach this point, where you're decision-making about where to go with things, you've reached the point of over-analysis. You should have fun with her when your'e with her..pursue other girls at the same time..and not even think about things like this. you should never fully commit yourself to one thing...the only exceptino being when you MUST LEAVE HER INDEFINITELY..for reasons such as cheating, etc.
 

Deryk

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Yeah man I agree with jeffthechef on that third one man but I suppose the
best thing to do to get her looking your way is to start getting different girls
touching kissing while shes there it may be rude it may be ungentlemenlike (is
that a word) but she'll be draw to you because.. you want what you can't
have, epically if it ran right though your fingers. but it depends in order for that
to work there has to be some attraction... so good luck witch ever way you go
man.
 

Flakes

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I agree with Deryk's solution; when all else fails, make her jealous by any means possible! Tell her stories, do stuff to other girls in front of her, and then give her a bit of a hint that she's next. Don't overdo it though, remember you want to go from friend to lover, not friend to *******...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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