"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

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Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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I hate her parents - dilemma

hansol

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Hi guys,

Okay I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for the last 6 months, and I'm starting to feel it's at the point where I either need to really commit, or just pull the eject cable. What's making the decision difficult for me is because the main red flag that is holding me back isn't exactly her fault:

Her family is nuts and I depise them. Literally crazy. Her dad is an alocholic, her mum is a bipolar who won't take pills. Sister (22) has anger issues and is now knocked up by some guy she's been seeing for all of 2 months and they are going to carry to term. The family has been running an equine business for the last 6 years, of which my gf was involved for the first 4. Things got ugly (given that the parents are nuts) and she walked away from the business. Stayed away for a year or so, parents begged her to come back to keep the business afloat, so she did. Of course things were fine for a couple months, then went to **** again. So the gf recently left again, took the clients, and now runs it as her own business with the parents not involved. But through the whole time I've known her, the parents have gone out of their way to make her life miserable; they intentionally do their best to hurt her, day in and day out. And instead of the gf saying "piss off" and changing her phone number, she still keeps in touch and contacts them.

Ironically, coming from such a crazy situation, she herself seems pretty well adjusted. Polite, hard working, very personable with clients, that sort of thing. My issue is that I hate the parents, and I don't think it's undeserved: I'm not the kind of person who just puts the blinders on when someone I care about is being hurt, and that's what is happening in this situation. I would like to see her just walk away from the whole thing and not look back, but it's family after all, and it's easier said than done.

The way I see it is if things get serious, maybe 2-3 yrs down the road you're talking marriage and kids (for the sake of argument). Long story short, grandparents like to see their grandkids, and kids like to have their parents at weddings. These people are not people I would ever want at a wedding or family Christmas, and I sure as hell wouldn't want them around my kids. And while it's easy for me to say that, I'm guessing the gf will feel differently as time passes? And if that's the case, that puts me in an even trickier spot of having the gf annoyed at her parents now, but as time passes she forgives them. Then suddenly I'm the selfish ******* in the situation.

Anyway, I'm thinking it's time I split with this girl, but when the problem I'm having isn't directly her fault, I wondered if maybe that was an unfair way to look at it. Anyone have any experience with where a person hates and cuts off the in-laws and the relationship still worked?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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speed dawg

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This is not your problem, so don't make it that way. Stop being Captain Savaho. Decide if you can deal with it or if you can't. The girl and her parents are one and the same. If you marry her, you are marrying her parents.

I think you know your answer. Eject. Tell her to call you when she's made her mind up about her parents. If you're available, you'll talk. If not, tough sh*t.
 

The Duke

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My guess is if her parents are as wacked out as you say then it will be in her and come out eventually. Having a bipolar mom and drunk daddy, there are a lot of life skills she most likely was never taught. That leaves you to put up with it.
 

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Dear Hansol,
This is a hard one,but as their venom is long standing and not directed at you,it's really her problem....sure it will be a constant thorn in your side,but unless you go to live with them,it is not a deal closer....In some strange way issues like this can be valuable,in Business life there are many frustrations,couples tend to vent these petty annoyances in aggressive behaviour towards each other,her Family will be an outlet for her,a safety valve that has you as an Ally....Don't worry too much about this,it's a good excuse not to always have to accompany her to Family meetings,something that becomes tiresome with the nicest People!
 

glass half full

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Basically, if it's too hot and crowded in the kitchen, get out. This most likely won't get any better with time!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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cordoncordon

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Curious as to what kind of equine business they run? Trying to rack my brain as to what it could be that requires 'clients'. Some kind of training to be a rider or show jumper?

Reason I ask is I owned and trained race horses (standardbreds) for a long time in the midwest.
 

Warrior74

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Bail. My ex's parents were racist closed minded fox news -ditto heads. They assumed I was the devil. Her mother was passive aggressive and manipulative as hell and tried to use the bible to justify her hate and bigotry, her step father was soft like cotton with a spine like silk. They did everything in their power to make our lives hell. After we split and she started dating some real pieces of ****, they realized that I wasn't so bad. Too late. Too many years of putting up with their crap to be all buddy buddy now. Bail.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Bail. My ex's parents were racist closed minded fox news -ditto heads. They assumed I was the devil. Her mother was passive aggressive and manipulative as hell and tried to use the bible to justify her hate and bigotry, her step father was soft like cotton with a spine like silk. They did everything in their power to make our lives hell. After we split and she started dating some real pieces of ****, they realized that I wasn't so bad. Too late. Too many years of putting up with their crap to be all buddy buddy now. Bail.
Agreed 100%

I had the same 5hit with my last gf. She was a great girl, but her parents were hardcore religious and her bi-polar sister had a crush on me. She stood up to her sister, but not her parents. Eventually, she chose to please her parents instead of keeping our relationship going. She hasn't had a steady bf since.

If your gf isn't standing up to her parents and isn't keeping them at a distance, then she's eventually going to choose them over you. Unless she truly sees that her parents are fvcked in the head (and that usually doesn't happen unless she gets royally screwed by them), then they will continue to be a huge influence in her life.
 

hansol

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Well I pulled the trigger. I feel like absolute ****. This girl is crazy about me, and she's a pretty down to earth genuine nice chick. And it just seems ****ed to end it because of a third party, but I guess that's how life goes sometimes...

Cordon, she's a hunter/jumper trainer and instructor. I'm from a ranch family so the whole English/jump-over-stuff-with-your-pony took some getting used to, that's for sure.
 
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