"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I had enough, and said this to a girl........

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This chick is crazy. She has been flaking and showing low interest for three weeks now. Then, she calls me on Sat crying and apologizing for her behavior and telling me how she cares and everything. blah blah blah. So she calls me again today and I just said look "I don't want to waste my time because it seems like you are not interested. You are also holding some things against me (which she was)..........Look, I'll leave the ball in your court, if you want to hang out, let me know. I don't expect anything (she was telling me oh I don't know what I want, I'm confused, etc.) I like your company and I like you but I don't expect anything." I just had enough. I'm too old and too tired to chase after a girl who is telling me she is confused and doesn't know what she wants. I just want to have sex with her. So do you think I did the right thing? Usually, I would be more aggressive, but I realize at this age that her attraction to me goes lower when I chase for some reason. What do you think? I'm not contacting ever again. If she wants to see me, she can call. I've known her for a while now and we already had sex and she has been distant because she either thinks I want relationship, or her exboyfriend is back. I just don't want to play games anymore. I'm tired. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This one is easy.

No matter what she is calling to talk about... cut her short and say "Look, don't call me until you are on your way over. Bye."

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What would I do?

"She has been flaking and showing low interest for three weeks now"

I wouldn't have let it continue for three weeks.

"I just said look "I don't want to waste my time because it seems like you are not interested..."

And she just tells you she's "confused", apologizes, cries, blah blah, my point being there's NO point in telling a chick what it seems like she is or isn't. So what would I do? I'd just stop talking to her and find women who want to go out with me. It's that frickin' simple.

Understand that when women use the word "confused", don't believe for a second that their brains are actually confused. Women have IQs, you know. They're not stupid. They play as if they're stupid. They know EXACTLY what they're doing, and the "I'm confused" bit is a ploy to keep you in their orbit and in the dark. There's probably another guy involved. Oh! The ex bf is back? Excuse me, but he never left. Chances are she's playing him too with the same bit.

>> Look, I'll leave the ball in your court>>

I wouldn't do that either.
 

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This is a non issue. If you had a life and important things to attend to you wouldnt even be wasting your time with these conversations let alone making a thread about it.

Btw even if she wanted to see you again, would you? The way you answer this question says alot about you.
 

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trent81 said:
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
Listen to her actions - NOT HER WORDS!

Regarding what you said - it is now 100% irrelevant because it is in the past. You can't undo it. You'll only dig a deeper hole trying to understand it or change it. Plus what you said wasn't all the bad.

You guys were intimate. Something about it doesn't sit right with her. Go ahead, speculate all you want, but the reason is irrelevant, it's the corresponding actions (or lack of "actions") that matter. Now she wants you to be her girlfriend while she figures out whether to accept your frame or go back to the other guy (emotionally, she thinks this will be easiest for her). Heck, call it a great sh!t test. But deep down she hopes you'll be a MAN and respond with indifference (even if she never sees you again). It may make things more complicated for her but she'll understand and respect you for it (in the end). If you keep talking and trying to solve her problems I can assure you that you will not be with her long. This is a role for her healthy female GF's.

trent81 said:
I just don't want to play games anymore.
Then stop playing them. You're the man. MOVE FORWARD with your life. If she wants, she can catch up. When you're moving forward, they only frame is your frame.

If Rollo doesn't insert links regarding Plate Theory and women witholding intimacy for frame control then use the search link
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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