"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I got turned down by a hb9 :confused: adivise please

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So i went to buy some clothes at the mall and i see this hb9 working as a cashier there. So I buy my self a shirt and shes the one that attends to me I was nervous at first because i knew that i was going to ask her for her number. So i was talking to her and everything was going pretty smooth until i asked her for her #.
She was giving me a lot of IOI's so i asked her if she wanted to get something to eat sometime and if she would give me her number.
When i did ask her she blusshed a lot and smiled but hesistated at the same time. Then she continued that she had a boyfriend. I said alright and walked away with regret of not having a little bit more of perseverance to see if she would give in.

Well i know i could just move on with my life and everything would be fine, but i really want to get to know this girl.



Has anyone had a situation like this before? is it possible to go back again and keep on trying to get her number? what should be my next move if i really wanted to get her digits?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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just smile and say "what, you can't have lunch with another human being because you have a boyfriend? Come on." smile and act playful as if it were a joke.

It always works well for me.
 
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"Im not asking you to marry me dont worry! you seemed like a cool person who id get on with but hey if your boyfriend doesn't like you talking to other guys then its something ill have to accept :) "
 
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Seriously i really dont care about the boyfriend, its not like if shes married. The thing is how can i get around this defense to score some digits atleast.

Thats my goal atm get her digits, then if i succeed in that ill move on to the next step but how many more times should i go to that store and ask her again for the digits. Is it still a good idea to go again and ask her again?
 
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Maybe she does have a boyfriend and isn't interested in dating anyone else right now. You can't overcome everything with "game".
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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the other night i was out at the bars. i approached a 7 and after talking for a few minutes she said the same thing i said "oh i dont mind, i'm not looking for a girlfriend. just having a conversation"

same night i approached a 9 and her friend an 8. i talked to the 9 at first but her english sucked so i talked to the 8 while my friend TRIED to talk to the 9, ha. after talking for a few mins the 8 tells me she is married i said "oh i dont mind, not trying to get married, just having a conversation"

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A GIRLFRIEND OR A WIFE? if you are then you need to get it out of your head. if you aren't, then who ****ing cares if they have a boyfriend? man up, son!
 
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from my experience through lots of failed rejections and successes i realized that girls always want to look like their not slvts/wh0res. They want to be seen as goody two shoes. So girls with boyfriends i tend not to straight out ask for them number. Striking up a 2-5 minute conversation should not be hard for two strangers since you know nothing about each other. It's even easier if you both find each other attractive.

You never suggest that by talking to you, they are being unfaithful to their boyfriends. Most of the time they will feel uncomfortable if you do this. Make them feel as comfortable as possible. When the conversation is good, and you know in a few minutes you will be running out of things to talk about eject. Ask for their number and say you gotta go but would like to catch up with them later. Most guys just plainly ask for the girls number but don't state a reason for it. (when there isn't an obvious stated reason, they normally assume your trying to hit on them and if they have a boyfriend your jeopardizing her outlook on society). When your asking for the number to catch up later your reason for contacting her is to just talk, it's stated there. (it's also non-threatening)

Pressure them as little as possible.
Be friendly. (smile, laugh, joke)
Be polite/gentlemanly.
If you want to be sexual, be indirectly sexual so they don't get the impression you are trying to sex them.

If they don't feel like your a threat to making them one of those females that are frowned upon by society, the more willing they are to open up and be around you often. Eventually when you do get their number/hookup/fvck them, the fault won't be directed upon you. It will be on their boyfriend for not giving them enough attention.

They will probably say things like :You were funny/patient/kind/etc. You were only friends at first but since she lacked attention she had to get it elsewhere. It's not your fault, it was his. These are just basics, if your really good at pushing and pulling you can even steal her right from under him.
 
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SamMalone said:
Maybe she does have a boyfriend and isn't interested in dating anyone else right now. You can't overcome everything with "game".
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Word, imgaine some chicks are still loyal.....wow
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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