"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I got this friend.

disgustipated

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25 yo. Makes about 30k. 2 kids, one on the way. Once divorced, his current wife and him just split. She's a cuunt. Doesn't want him to see his first son, throws away pictures clothes you name it of said son....is unruly when drunk. If that's not bad enough, his ex wife is remarried to a guy that keeps challenging him verbally with stupid shiit....not sure if they're baiting him to thrash him so he screws up his parental rights with his son. This particular ex wants him to sign over his rights even though he's current on support and gets his son regularly...even gets him afterschool so she doesn't pay daycare. Since his most recent split he's taken a downward spiral....his nerves are shot, he's on meds for this which is giving him bad side effects and he's missing work because of all this. On the verge of being fired. I know, I work with him.

The positives. Great fuucking work ethic. Good looking dude. Works out religiously. Great fuucking shape. He's setting pbs in the gym. Good with money. Can dance. Chicks like him, even though he claims he has no game. Funny as hell. Social.

What do I tell this dude?

Best I got so far is this:

1. Stop making babies.
2. Either stop all relationships for a period of time or women period.
3. Get some quick bangs in for the confidence. He never cheated but could've.
4. Do something legally about the ex wife to set up a situation that is concrete where threats aren't an issue. Document everything they throw at you.
5. Try to stay friendly with current wife in hopes to keep that situation out of courts. Pray you don't get raped.
6. Stay positive about who you are as a man. You are well liked, don't let past mistakes depress you about the future. Build a support network of male friends that have your back.
7. Stay with your hobbies.
8. Keep improving yourself career wise. Try to make more so at least you have more left over for yourself.
9. Buy him a copy of RT's book.

What else.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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#4

write down every confrontation with his ex and her current husband. Document everything. Save all voicemails, text messages. Get a lawyer, start building a case. Do it all on the sly and down low. Then, when your case is strong enough, **** this ***** over and get your kids back, full custody, she can have supervised visits. They may need some therapy but it's better than being raised by a couple of inbreds.

If it were my kids I wouldn't be able to handle them being raised by people like that. I'd get one of his threats recorded...then I'd take a bat to his head.
 

disgustipated

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It's a miracle he hasn't. The guy is slightly effeminate. I'm pretty sure my friend could thrash him, but I've seen strange things happen in fights. It's such a mismatch that I had to ask him the question, " let me get this strsight, X is threatening you!!!?". For that reason alone I think its a setup.
 

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Ha!

Twenty-five and already twice divorced and with two kids!? Fuck. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?

Don't choose wrong! Choose well.
 

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1. Well, he certainly should never, ever get married again. Marriage is something that doesn't work for this guy. I'm not against marriage if you are in your 20's, but I'm certainly against having kids until you are in your 30's. Being tied down and changing diapers at age 21-25 is bad, bad news. That being said....

2. He should also get a vasectomy. Nothing good can come of having another child with a third (?) woman.

3. That is a lot of baggage for a young man. I suggest he take a few YEARS off from dating and completely rebuild himself into something different and better.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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bradd80 said:
I would strongly advise your friend that he not take a bat to the head of the hubby as plate's empty suggested.
LOL.
 

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wtf did i read? some tale from the ghettos? or is this science fiction?
3 kids at 25, 2 wives, 30k salary.... did this guy have brain injury at birth?
another product of the ever so wonderful "hollywood"..

oh sh!t i cant take this anymore .ok i'm out, *shoots himself*
 

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I'm not saying the situation doesn't suck. Really, its amazingly bad. But the way some of you guys write or respond is waaaay dramatic. Have you never seen someone in a bad situation in life before?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I don't think this guy is going to LISTEN to a thing you say. He doesn't sound like the common-sense type. He sounds like the "listen-to-his-****-and-heart"-type.

As with anyone be his friend, listen to his woes, give advice when asked, and live your life the way you want and hope that it rubs off on him. We are often a composite of the 5 people we spend most of our time with. If this guys is spending time with a positive influence that he wants to impress and jibe with he has a shot.
 
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