"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I got this friend.

disgustipated

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25 yo. Makes about 30k. 2 kids, one on the way. Once divorced, his current wife and him just split. She's a cuunt. Doesn't want him to see his first son, throws away pictures clothes you name it of said son....is unruly when drunk. If that's not bad enough, his ex wife is remarried to a guy that keeps challenging him verbally with stupid shiit....not sure if they're baiting him to thrash him so he screws up his parental rights with his son. This particular ex wants him to sign over his rights even though he's current on support and gets his son regularly...even gets him afterschool so she doesn't pay daycare. Since his most recent split he's taken a downward spiral....his nerves are shot, he's on meds for this which is giving him bad side effects and he's missing work because of all this. On the verge of being fired. I know, I work with him.

The positives. Great fuucking work ethic. Good looking dude. Works out religiously. Great fuucking shape. He's setting pbs in the gym. Good with money. Can dance. Chicks like him, even though he claims he has no game. Funny as hell. Social.

What do I tell this dude?

Best I got so far is this:

1. Stop making babies.
2. Either stop all relationships for a period of time or women period.
3. Get some quick bangs in for the confidence. He never cheated but could've.
4. Do something legally about the ex wife to set up a situation that is concrete where threats aren't an issue. Document everything they throw at you.
5. Try to stay friendly with current wife in hopes to keep that situation out of courts. Pray you don't get raped.
6. Stay positive about who you are as a man. You are well liked, don't let past mistakes depress you about the future. Build a support network of male friends that have your back.
7. Stay with your hobbies.
8. Keep improving yourself career wise. Try to make more so at least you have more left over for yourself.
9. Buy him a copy of RT's book.

What else.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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#4

write down every confrontation with his ex and her current husband. Document everything. Save all voicemails, text messages. Get a lawyer, start building a case. Do it all on the sly and down low. Then, when your case is strong enough, **** this ***** over and get your kids back, full custody, she can have supervised visits. They may need some therapy but it's better than being raised by a couple of inbreds.

If it were my kids I wouldn't be able to handle them being raised by people like that. I'd get one of his threats recorded...then I'd take a bat to his head.
 

disgustipated

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It's a miracle he hasn't. The guy is slightly effeminate. I'm pretty sure my friend could thrash him, but I've seen strange things happen in fights. It's such a mismatch that I had to ask him the question, " let me get this strsight, X is threatening you!!!?". For that reason alone I think its a setup.
 

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Ha!

Twenty-five and already twice divorced and with two kids!? Fuck. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?

Don't choose wrong! Choose well.
 

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1. Well, he certainly should never, ever get married again. Marriage is something that doesn't work for this guy. I'm not against marriage if you are in your 20's, but I'm certainly against having kids until you are in your 30's. Being tied down and changing diapers at age 21-25 is bad, bad news. That being said....

2. He should also get a vasectomy. Nothing good can come of having another child with a third (?) woman.

3. That is a lot of baggage for a young man. I suggest he take a few YEARS off from dating and completely rebuild himself into something different and better.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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bradd80 said:
I would strongly advise your friend that he not take a bat to the head of the hubby as plate's empty suggested.
LOL.
 

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wtf did i read? some tale from the ghettos? or is this science fiction?
3 kids at 25, 2 wives, 30k salary.... did this guy have brain injury at birth?
another product of the ever so wonderful "hollywood"..

oh sh!t i cant take this anymore .ok i'm out, *shoots himself*
 

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I'm not saying the situation doesn't suck. Really, its amazingly bad. But the way some of you guys write or respond is waaaay dramatic. Have you never seen someone in a bad situation in life before?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't think this guy is going to LISTEN to a thing you say. He doesn't sound like the common-sense type. He sounds like the "listen-to-his-****-and-heart"-type.

As with anyone be his friend, listen to his woes, give advice when asked, and live your life the way you want and hope that it rubs off on him. We are often a composite of the 5 people we spend most of our time with. If this guys is spending time with a positive influence that he wants to impress and jibe with he has a shot.
 
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