"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've never posted here, but have a decent amount of experience with women. Not looking for an answer to anything. I just want opinions on the situation. Because as we all know, in the end, every man with self dignity will handle it his way anyways.


There's this woman. She was lesbian, until she met me. I started dating her, and things were spectacular. Everything was fine and we have clicked great. She wanted to go to this lesbian/gay club she used to go to with some friends. She also wanted to bring me along. Some girl hit on her, but she blew her off. We got back to her house, and I headed home. We txt'd each other goodnight. Then she said her friend wanted her to go meet up with two chicks(Her friend is still lesbian.). One of the chicks just so happened to be the one that hit on her. I come to work next morning, and she told me she hadn't slept yet. I asked what happened. She responded to me, "Baby, I really like this girl...". Obviously my knees got weak ><. We are still dating, but I fear she may be about to break up with me for another girl. What I have done so far, is try to keep things normal and not be worried. My thought process is that if she really likes me, she'll choose me in the end anyways. Responses anyone?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Vendetta081789 said:
There's this woman. She was lesbian, until she met me.
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Wrong. She is a lesbian.

Women think they can make gay men straight. They can't.

The same applies to delusional men.
 
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ill laugh if she leaves you for a chick....joking
id try to get them both. hhehe
 
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That just goes back to the age old argument of whether or not being homosexual is a choice, which I wasn't intending to get into. Focus more on the matter at hand, act as if she were interested in another guy. The sexes are irrelevant as the situation would be the same were it a guy she liked...Please continue however.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If my date said, "Baby, I really like this [guy.]"

Then I would be singing Paint it Black.

So you can do that and get over it. Or you can not do it and get over it.

Either way, she's well on her way to being over you.
 
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Skepsis said:
Either way, she's well on her way to being over you.
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Could be. I also considered the thought that maybe it is a subconscious defining moment in our relationship. Kind of seeing if she is happier with or without me.
 
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No, the sexes are not irrelevant. They could be, but you can't say that for sure. Maybe she realizes that a man is not what she is interested in, so as soon as a girl comes along....

If this was a man, you wouldn't put up with the BS for long. But since this could create a nice opportunity for you....lol
 
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Read through the articles on this site and the DJ bible, maybe you'll be able to get the spark back. Good luck, if you know its about to end though, suggest you, your GF and the new girl have a 3 sum :) it would be a nice goodbye lol.
 
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Your allowing your fantasies to cloud your judgement. It has no bearing on the situation that she is an ex lesbian. How would you feel if she said to you "hunny I really like this other guy". She's totally disrecting you.

I'm willing to be she's already munched the new carpet.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Vendetta081789 said:
I've never posted here, but have a decent amount of experience with women. Not looking for an answer to anything. I just want opinions on the situation. Because as we all know, in the end, every man with self dignity will handle it his way anyways.


There's this woman. She was lesbian, until she met me. I started dating her, and things were spectacular. Everything was fine and we have clicked great. She wanted to go to this lesbian/gay club she used to go to with some friends. She also wanted to bring me along. Some girl hit on her, but she blew her off. We got back to her house, and I headed home. We txt'd each other goodnight. Then she said her friend wanted her to go meet up with two chicks(Her friend is still lesbian.). One of the chicks just so happened to be the one that hit on her. I come to work next morning, and she told me she hadn't slept yet. I asked what happened. She responded to me, "Baby, I really like this girl...". Obviously my knees got weak ><. We are still dating, but I fear she may be about to break up with me for another girl. What I have done so far, is try to keep things normal and not be worried. My thought process is that if she really likes me, she'll choose me in the end anyways. Responses anyone?
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Have you slept with this lesbian?

Secondly, regarldless of the sexual orientation of the person in question, the fact of the matter is she talked about the other girl to you simply because she wants to dump you. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
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Bubble not busted. Yes I have slept with her. Thanks for the wishes of luck. Don't really want to lose a great woman like this, but these things happen. There are more women to come.
 
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Vendetta081789 said:
I've never posted here, but have a decent amount of experience with women. Not looking for an answer to anything. I just want opinions on the situation. Because as we all know, in the end, every man with self dignity will handle it his way anyways.


There's this woman. She was lesbian, until she met me. I started dating her, and things were spectacular. Everything was fine and we have clicked great. She wanted to go to this lesbian/gay club she used to go to with some friends. She also wanted to bring me along. Some girl hit on her, but she blew her off. We got back to her house, and I headed home. We txt'd each other goodnight. Then she said her friend wanted her to go meet up with two chicks(Her friend is still lesbian.). One of the chicks just so happened to be the one that hit on her. I come to work next morning, and she told me she hadn't slept yet. I asked what happened. She responded to me, "Baby, I really like this girl...". Obviously my knees got weak ><. We are still dating, but I fear she may be about to break up with me for another girl. What I have done so far, is try to keep things normal and not be worried. My thought process is that if she really likes me, she'll choose me in the end anyways. Responses anyone?
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ROCK < VENDETTA > HARDPLACE
 
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Try and set up a three way!! If she is still a lesbian and has those feelings for other women. You most likely won't be in a exclusive relationship. Hell, she might say she likes you but, likes women better. I wouldn't get in a serious relationship with her. Keep her around for the good sex but, also get sex from straight women.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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We split up today. End of story. Remaining friends at best.
 
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