I get no response to my EC!

[Life-Trainee]

Cold approaches haven't worked for me since ever i began them. I've been trying to establish EC and smile with about any "eligible" girl that I encounter in my day to day life. Streets, book stores, malls. I don't seem to be getting EC and smile back! I made it point to concentrate on it this week and guess what? Girls just look away!! I don't think I have a creepy smile, I might have a dirty smile but definately not creepy. Like I was walking down the street today eyed a pretty girl right across from me going in opposite direction. I eye contact her and smile, like on command she pulls out her cell phone and buries her eyes in it. This is like negative EC.
Suggestions anybody?

 

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maybe ur scary looking.. care to post pictures?

 

[Life-Trainee]

I'm pretty sure it's not my appearance.
Here's a pic
http://www.paul.webmagnifique.com/images/mee.jpg

 

[Omega]

Originally posted by Life-Trainee
I'm pretty sure it's not my appearance.
Here's a pic
http://www.paul.webmagnifique.com/images/mee.jpg

If thats the smile, please don't ever do that. You look like your ready to pedo my ass.

Make sure its a REAL smile from deep down inside the heart (grabs chest). Yea yea.

 

[Life-Trainee]

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[Mr Spitfire]

It looks like you are about to say

"WHO FARTED?"

They are looking at you and thinking. Don't be trying to act like I farted mutha effa you know it was you!

 

[Mr Spitfire]

Mix it up a little bit by not smiling at all. You might be able to pull off the bad boy thing.

I get a lot of big smiles and EC from hot chicks when I say Hi and dont smile.

 

[bp1974]

I make eye contact with women every day. I never smile until they smile at me, and I never break eye contact first. Some respond, some don't.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

I dunno, EC sure as hell works for me. But then again, I am beautiful.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Originally posted by R3N3GAD3
If thats the smile, please don't ever do that. You look like your ready to pedo my ass.

 

[aBAzLLnA]

Originally posted by bp1974
I make eye contact with women every day. I never smile until they smile at me, and I never break eye contact first. Some respond, some don't.

Yeah, try this, it works well for me. Personally, I think it gives off an intense kind of sexual feeling, but that's just me

~ivan

 

[JSH]

if its only cold pick ups this happens on then dont smile so dodgily, or dont smile as has been said. However, you can practice your smile in front of a mirror, at first it feels weird but practice makes perfect.

In addition, try picking girls up in an activity that is already screened, so that you have somehting in common. I have a lot more success if its someone whos at the same football/rugby match, in the same place, say a bookstore or interested in going where I am, say an airport or looking round a university. This is because you have something in common and therefore she knows something and is less threatened.

 

[wolfie]

Originally posted by Life-Trainee
Cold approaches haven't worked for me since ever i began them. I've been trying to establish EC and smile with about any "eligible" girl that I encounter in my day to day life. Streets, book stores, malls. I don't seem to be getting EC and smile back! I made it point to concentrate on it this week and guess what? Girls just look away!! I don't think I have a creepy smile, I might have a dirty smile but definately not creepy. Like I was walking down the street today eyed a pretty girl right across from me going in opposite direction. I eye contact her and smile, like on command she pulls out her cell phone and buries her eyes in it. This is like negative EC.
Suggestions anybody?

So your approach consists of trying to establish EC and getting a smile? You aren't actually approaching them and attempting to start a conversation? Or do you only talk to them if you get EC and a smile?

 

[Life-Trainee]

Well, i usually do EC and all that stuff when I'm probing for interest and for practicing purpose. I try it both ways smiling and non-smiling. Seems to be the same.

 

[wolfie]

Why bother witih probing? Just approach. You'll soon see whether they're interested or not based on how they respond to your approach. You'll be able to save lots of stress and not worry about crap like "why didnt she look at me and smile?" etc.
There's no need to 'make sure' they're interested first.

Just because a woman doesn't make eye contact with you and smile doesn't mean she's not approachable. I get EC from maybe one woman in 50, and smiles from even less than that.
Yet every single number close I've ever had has been with a woman I didnt make EC with first. In fact, some of them walk past me very quickly without even acknowledging my existence, and yet I can stop them, talk to them and build enough rapport to close them.

If you want to practise, practise approaching and talking. All the eye contact and smiling practise in the world won't help you if you can't run good game while you're actually in set talking to them. Women after all are attracted greatly to an interesting personality, and you can't convey all of that just with eye contact and smiles.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

i find that if your in the middle of town and its busy, its hard to get EC, when theres few people there, or in my case few people my age even if it is busy, then it is so easy to get EC, so try getting it at diffrent places! also got a place where people are chilled out, not in a rush.

hope iv been a help

 

[Tempest]

yeah, screw the eye contact/smile. i mean yeah, try to keep it up, BUT don't let it be the deciding factor to whether you're going to approach or not.

i went to the mall last week and wanted to practice my approaches (first time doing this). NONE of the girls that i approached gave me eye contact beforehand. i rarely even got eye contact, at all. i stared down all the girls as they walked by, they were pretending they didn't see me.

i was sitting down, saw two 7's walk by me. got up, followed them, walked in behind them and said "excuse me, do you know where the bathroom is?" and then got into a 5 minute conversation about random ****. then i randomly blurted out, "do you have email?" she said she had a boyfriend. i used the "i have two girlfriends, you need to catch up!" line, she said ok and gave it to me.

i talked to her on MSN last night, she is interested in me and is in a 7 month relationship! she said i was really nice, and that most guys are *******s. and this was one of the first time's i've approached a girl!

the point is, it doesn't matter whether she gives you eye contact or not. i mean, yeah, it HELPS in the approach, but don't approach solely on how much eye contact you're getting.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Put your photo back up. I will tell you what to change.

 

[JT47319]

You need to start WORKING OUT. Sorry man, but you've got the creepy, gaunt look to you. Gain 30lbs.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Alright here's my tip. Stop smiling. I aint seen your smile, but if your approach is geared towards more of a gunwitch method, then you aint been congruent. Look her in the eyes the moment she gets into your view, if she catches you looking and sees that it's at her eyes, i think that is better. Tilt your head a lil to the side, and kinda close your eyes by furrowing your eyebrows, or creating small lines on your forehead. Try that in the mirror until you find a look that you think is attractive or mysterious.