I finally figured out why women are valued higher.

[RichardTheFrog]

If men were able to create women through a 3-D printer and program them to fvck, suck, and obey, then the demand for women would decrease and the supply of women would increase, thus creating less value for women.

Women are only as valuable as the demand the market commands of them. Unfortunately, we have this little hormone called testosterone which regulates our sex drive, which eclipses women's testosterone by 14 times. So under this condition, incited by our superfluous testosterone, the demand for women by men will always be high, thus giving women greater value (tit for tit) in the sexual marketplace. Now you could always castrate your testosterone, but any man who has lived with low testosterone for any period of time knows that's not a life worth living.

The demand for them in traditional dating and marriage would drop if they legalized prostitution.

 

[guru1000]

You have countries with legalized prostitution: https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/countries-with-legal-prostitution/#.qf4w87jh5, and the demand for women is still relatively high for both.

We are more fulfilled as men--likely by feeling validated and connecting--when desire of the woman is genuine and sex is wanted, rather than paid for. Same act, different motivation prompting the act.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Occam's razor. Could be for money in some roundabout way, rather than direct. Desperation is a possibility. A path to citizenship wouldn't be out of the question (and is even likely given the affairs of immigration politics lately). Or perhaps they intend to rob you blind after you fall asleep? Could be a lot of reasons, but I'm pretty damn certain it's not because they're giving up their valuable eggs for your common sperm.

BOTH SEXES desire the best in the opposite sex, and the best of men and women alike are equally valued in the grand scheme of things; an attractive, higher quality woman is not any more rare than a successful, high quality man.

The fact that your thread is launched on the premise that women are of higher value to begin with is, in my opinion, poisonous, self-defeating logic. This is exactly what women will want you to think, when the truth is that most women hold no more value than most of the common men in the world.

Females have little to no intrinsic value. They don't make the world go round. Which is why I had been trying to figure out why they are rated high in society despite contributing little. And this post was the answer I came up with.

And, no, the girls just want to have sex.

 

[sosousage]

Ok im calling for this guys BAN. How the fuk can we have someone on this forum spouting beta male mgtow crap like "females have little to no intrinsic value". Seriously, what in the actual phuck is a phaggot mindset like that even doing here, pardon my french.

Im as redpill an black knight as you can get....@richardthefrog..do you have mommy issues? Who gave birth to you? So the human that gave you LIFE doesnt have any intrinsic value? How about the fact this chick grew ur ass inside her body and gave birth to your wack ass...isnt that intrinsic value? Go pump ur penis some more this forum doesnt need or want you.

so you Julian wanted to get me, @Tenacity, and @RichardTheFrog, as well as @bigneil banned. Who else is in the list that I didnt mention? You have very snitch-alike mentality bro.

Richard probably meant that biggest companies and most influential events in history were lead by men. not women.

 

[Julian]

so you Julian wanted to get me, @Tenacity, and @RichardTheFrog, as well as @bigneil banned. Who else is in the list that I didnt mention? You have very snitch-alike mentality bro.

Richard probably meant that biggest companies and most influential events in history were lead by men. not women.

LOL wow you say I have a snitch like mentality? You are the punk who reported my post towards a bot account in the health forums, so how can you seriously try and insult me like that when you are a certified hypocrite?

Its called freedom of speech. Here in the United States where this forums server is based, we have the freedom to voice our opinions. Just like richard is saying what he wants, I can say what I want and denounce him if I dont agree. I dont like the changes ive seen on these forums with a few posters because they are rotten apples. And even 1 rotten apple will spoil the bunch. What I learned through management of businesses and people is that those with negative attitudes and people spreading that kind of message need to be rooted out.

So maybe you should think about what group of posters you want to associate with because you honestly seem like you are probably about 17 years old so you should get a pass, as you are still learning. But take a hard look at the message those guys are spreading and you will see its very negative for the forums and the dialogue it creates is not constructive in my view as it on some hatred for women mgtow crap.

 

[sosousage]

LOL wow you say I have a snitch like mentality? You are the punk who reported my post towards a bot account in the health forums, so how can you seriously try and insult me like that when you are a certified hypocrite?

Its called freedom of speech. Here in the United States where this forums server is based, we have the freedom to voice our opinions. Just like richard is saying what he wants, I can say what I want and denounce him if I dont agree. I dont like the changes ive seen on these forums with a few posters because they are rotten apples. And even 1 rotten apple will spoil the bunch. What I learned through management of businesses and people is that those with negative attitudes and people spreading that kind of message need to be rooted out.

So maybe you should think about what group of posters you want to associate with because you honestly seem like you are probably about 17 years old so you should get a pass, as you are still learning. But take a hard look at the message those guys are spreading and you will see its very negative for the forums and the dialogue it creates is not constructive in my view as it on some hatred for women mgtow crap.

I am 22 dude

 

[Asasione]

so you Julian wanted to get me, @Tenacity, and @RichardTheFrog, as well as @bigneil banned. Who else is in the list that I didnt mention? You have very snitch-alike mentality bro.

Richard probably meant that biggest companies and most influential events in history were lead by men. not women.

Richard is plain abnormal, has a penis implant and advocates paying for s#x, you sure you even want to entertain discussions with this guy? He's clearly got a screw loose with his idiotic statements against women. Men having a bigger impact on history or in the world doesn't mean women don't have any value beyond reproduction. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, can't believe this even up for debate.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard is plain abnormal, has a penis implant and advocates paying for s#x, you sure you even want to entertain discussions with this guy? He's clearly got a screw loose with his idiotic statements against women. Men having a bigger impact on history or in the world doesn't mean women don't have any value beyond reproduction. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, can't believe this even up for debate.

So what's their value?

Best thing we've come up with so far is multitasking, ability to form social connections, and some other B$.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Ok im calling for this guys BAN. How the fuk can we have someone on this forum spouting beta male mgtow crap like "females have little to no intrinsic value". Seriously, what in the actual phuck is a phaggot mindset like that even doing here, pardon my french.

Im as redpill an black knight as you can get....@richardthefrog..do you have mommy issues? Who gave birth to you? So the human that gave you LIFE doesnt have any intrinsic value? How about the fact this chick grew ur ass inside her body and gave birth to your wack ass...isnt that intrinsic value? Go pump ur penis some more this forum doesnt need or want you.

Maybe you are just not man enough to see it. Maybe you NEED THEM for things that I don't. You obviously are not red pill as fvck.

Women can't give birth by themselves. They do 50% of that, and not much more on a large scale. There value doesn't extend very far past their reproductive system.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

has a penis implant

Guru talks about Viagra. What's the difference?

You guys worship him.

 

[zekko]

Guru talks about Viagra. What's the difference?
You guys worship him.

He's not a frog

You gave the evolutionary reason why women are valued more highly, here's a more practical reason.
First off, we're mainly talking about attractive women being more highly valued. And attractive women are generally considered to be in the 18-24 year old range. According to Mystery anyway (not sure what age he was when he said that, pretty sure he was in his 20s himself).

Anyway, that's a fairly small segment of the female population, but they are desired by men of all age groups. So that's a fairly small number of women being desired by a large number of men. Supply and demand. Young, attractive women are in high demand, thus they are valued highly.

If you took women as a whole, including the 84 year old ladies in nursing homes, things tend to even out more.

 

[AJ84]

Guru talks about Viagra. What's the difference?

You guys worship him.

I can't believe there are now two threads of this sh*t. Richard, look, do you want to date hot women? Yes? That means that there is some value in them in order for you to want them. Who cares what it is, it just is. The more time you spend arguing with everyone over this nonsense the less time you're spending with actual women. Have a drink and head to your local bar. It's the weekend. Get out of your head for a bit and go unwind somewhere, be around people have some fun.

 

[DonDraper7]

Richard sounds like a complete incel to me to be honest. Dude is doing some kind of weird fertility math, talking about what do the evil femoloids do in the world to be highly valued, who cares dude? Get out of that fvcking room you hide yourself in, groom yourself and actually try and have a conversation with the evil female overlord.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard sounds like a complete incel to me to be honest. Dude is doing some kind of weird fertility math, talking about what do the evil femoloids do in the world to be highly valued, who cares dude? Get out of that fvcking room you hide yourself in, groom yourself and actually try and have a conversation with the evil female overlord.

That explains the two girls that want to fvck me right now?

Pretty sure I spent all day turning myself into a master electrician rewiring a mobile home before I dropped off parts for my handyman to work on my house flip tomorrow. Just made it back home after a whole day of work.

And, btw, the amount of fun I had watching those outlets finally work after a whole day of tracing every wire in the home... Was more fun than I've had talking to a female in a long time. Maybe I just don't put them on a pedestal like you do. Maybe you need them for more than I do.

And I was texting one of the girls that wants to fvck me at times throughout the day, but I found the electric work to be more fun. Especially the "learning new things" aspect of it.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I can't believe there are now two threads of this sh*t. Richard, look, do you want to date hot women? Yes? That means that there is some value in them in order for you to want them. Who cares what it is, it just is. The more time you spend arguing with everyone over this nonsense the less time you're spending with actual women. Have a drink and head to your local bar. It's the weekend. Get out of your head for a bit and go unwind somewhere, be around people have some fun.

"Date?" No.

Fvck? Sometimes.

Yes, value = hot. Which only has value for brief periods of time. Definitely not worth enough for me to want to commit to. Problem for me is, I don't think many girls, especially ones who view themselves as "hot" or high value would be content with just being someone's fvck buddy without some sort of intent to commit, at least after a certain age.

 

[AJ84]

The valueless, multi-tasking, warm hole is right.

The valueless, multi-tasking, warm hole is right.

Haha, thanks for the endorsement, I can't multitask though

 

[AJ84]

"Date?" No.

Fvck? Sometimes.

Yes, value = hot. Which only has value for brief periods of time. Definitely not worth enough for me to want to commit to. Problem for me is, I don't think many girls, especially ones who view themselves as "hot" or high value would be content with just being someone's fvck buddy without some sort of intent to commit, at least after a certain age.

Hit up married hot women looking for a little something something on the side. No strings. And as they likely have no intention of leaving their husbands to settle down with you, you don't have to ponder over those pesky values or lack thereof, or making commitments, you can just simply enjoy the sex. That has the potential of being a no fuss/ no drama longer term hook up than the average hot single girl on the look out for the best ROI. And, you can have a few of them going.

Ashley Madison. Give it a go and report back.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Hit up married hot women looking for a little something something on the side. No strings. And as they likely have no intention of leaving their husbands to settle down with you, you don't have to ponder over those pesky values or lack thereof, or making commitments, you can just simply enjoy the sex. That has the potential of being a no fuss/ no drama longer term hook up than the average hot single girl on the look out for the best ROI. And, you can have a few of them going.

Ashley Madison. Give it a go and report back.

How about don't tell me what to do ever.

 

[AJ84]

How about don't tell me what to do ever.

Whine, argue with everyone and fall into despair then, if you would prefer to do that over getting hot girls, which seems to be the case.
Why are you even on this site if all you do is attack anyone who responds to you. If you just want a echo chamber to yell down then go find a site where there are like minded people, don't freak because someone has a different opinion than you, or gives you advice that you don't like.
Do you not understand the concept of a forum? I have had back and forths with a few people on this site but I can't say it's ever been nasty, and I expect some debate. I guess those guys just have a maturity level that you don't seem to have, as evident by your insulting responses to many people here and all of your bragging ( got two hot girls that want to f**k you? Then why the hell are you posting here and not out f**king them?)

You bite when people debate with you, you bite when people try to give you advice. You are your own worse enemy, good luck with that.

 

[marmel75]

It has nothing to do with intrinsic value. As has been discussed, men tend to be more capable in most ways. Men are definitely physically stronger. Why are men physically stronger? We'll get to that in a second. The best qualities we've come up with for women's value are multitasking, the ability to form emotional connections, and emotional intelligence. Is any of that actually true? Who knows. But that's not what matters to their value.

Their value lies in their eggs. Do eggs have higher intrinsic value than sperm? No. They have the same. They are each capable of producing 50% of a new person. The value of eggs lies in their rarity. A female produces roughly 350 eggs in her lifetime. She can only get pregnant once every 9 months, or 1.33333 times per year. A man can ejaculate let's just say 7 times per day, so he could produce about 2,556 babies per year.

This means that eggs are 2,556/1.3333 = appr. 1,917 times more valuable than sperm.

Think of it this way.

If you lived on an island with no link to the outside world, and had to guarantee survival of the human race, you'd want more women than men.
1 man can impregnate 100 women with ease, but if there is only 1 woman and 100 men, the human race dies out---a woman can only get pregnant once in a 9 month period. There in lies the value. Men can literally create thousands of offspring in a 9 month period by sleeping with many women. Women can only create one no matter how many men they sleep with in the same time period.