Sosuave has become a place of complaining. When it first started, it was a genuine place where we can discuss ideas not tear others down. Wish it can go back to that but with our new generation, I don’t think that is possible.
Rsdnation and the misc was the same. Misc OGs like zyzz, chestbrah, yaboydave, etc. Rsdnation OGs like distantlight, ambiguity, jmluv, and others. Both changed and went incel or FAers. The misc still has its moments and transformation threads. After yaboydave went to jail, zyzz died, and the next generation of soy boys came in, things got real gay. Rsdnation went down after the julien fiasco. It was stupid but rsd eas foolish in showing stupid **** when they have a group of social retards and incels as their audience.
Subtle things such as attraction, desire, and disinterest are obvious if you got game. You cannot advocate that stuff julien did or some of what he suggested without disclaimer or disclosure. RSD is the market leader for a reason. I don't like where its headed but it leaves room for the next generation of pua companies to gazelle forward.
BUT I GOTTA RESPECT THE OGS. Mystery, Rsd Tyler, Julien, David Deangelo, and others. The same way we recognise the genius of Rollo even if his call outs are annoying or despite the fact that he knows SMV but married epiphany phase.
The fellas pushed the manosphere forward. The same thing can be said of Peterson (regardless of his faults or contradictions). I am better now because of these men. Not worse. I have gratitude for that.
In either event, a man must educate himself from a variety of sources but, he must walk his hero's journey and be a free thinker having done so. In doing so, he us responsible for the choices he makes and the ones he fails to make.
This sentiment is not something western women are able to comprehend nor do.